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[Lord Bracknell]

Scan it in and let us all have a read LB.

Did Lewes leave in their instruction about "all major stadia"?

This was what was in the version that appeared briefly on the LDC website:-

"[PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF THE TYPE OF MITIGATION MEASURES
THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE AT WILSON AVENUE/WARREN
ROAD]
IN YOUR SUMMARY MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAY THAT THIS IS
VERY GOOD COMPARED TO MOST STADIA IN URBAN AREAS
AND THAT THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEMS"



They did manage to omit it from the final version. The consultants have, however, attempted to "provided examples of the type of mitigation measures that can be put in place at Wilson Avenue/Warren Way":-

"For example visitors using the car parking at the stadium could be encouraged to arrive earlier in order to spread the impacts of traffic on the local road network. In practice, visitors to the stadium are likely to do this anyway in order to avoid pre-match demands on the highway network".


In other words - there IS going to be gridlock, but this can be avoided if supporters don't travel in the hour before kick-off.

Is it just me, or does this reasoning look PATHETIC to other people as well?

 

[Buzzer]

It's a wish and a hope. Hardly the solid evidence needed. Also, In my experience, EVERY football ground is at its very very busiest in that half hour before kick off.


...and what about after full time? Everybody leaves together so guranteed gridlock. I'm guessing you've already noted this, LB.

 

[Curious Orange]

This was what was in the version that appeared briefly on the LDC website:-

"[PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF THE TYPE OF MITIGATION MEASURES
THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE AT WILSON AVENUE/WARREN
ROAD]
IN YOUR SUMMARY MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAY THAT THIS IS
VERY GOOD COMPARED TO MOST STADIA IN URBAN AREAS
AND THAT THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEMS"



They did manage to omit it from the final version. The consultants have, however, attempted to "provided examples of the type of mitigation measures that can be put in place at Wilson Avenue/Warren Way":-

"For example visitors using the car parking at the stadium could be encouraged to arrive earlier in order to spread the impacts of traffic on the local road network. In practice, visitors to the stadium are likely to do this anyway in order to avoid pre-match demands on the highway network".


In other words - there IS going to be gridlock, but this can be avoided if supporters don't travel in the hour before kick-off.

Is it just me, or does this reasoning look PATHETIC to other people as well?

I think you can add COMEDIC to the reasoning too, I'm surprised they didn't suggest that supporters don't bother attending matches at all in order to avoid the gridlock!!!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I think you can add COMEDIC to the reasoning too, I'm surprised they didn't suggest that supporters don't bother attending matches at all in order to avoid the gridlock!!!

Brilliant thinking, Mr Orange.

I'm sure with some imaginative marketing, season ticket holders could be encouraged to go to the cinema instead.

 

[Curious Orange]

Brilliant thinking, Mr Orange.

I'm sure with some imaginative marketing, season ticket holders could be encouraged to go to the cinema instead.

Then the club could save themselves a few quid by not building a stadium at Sheepcote Valley, as their won't be anyone attending 'cos they're at the cinema. Congestion problems completely solved!!! And I'm not even a transport consultant!!

 

[Barnet Seagull]

I'd love to take a look at Lewes's representation sounds a very entertaining read. I'm assuming this information will be made available to the public?

 

[Rangdo]

Re: Re: 3.3 kilos - the weight of the parcel the postman brought ...

Can you summarise it for us in just two lines !!!!:

WHAT? You want me to read two whole lines?

 

[Mileoakman]

Presumably if they want us to arrive at the match a couple of hours beforehand to spread the load, perhaps we ought to also be prepared to stay on afterwards till, say, about 8pm to avoid the gridlock after the match.

Should make supporting the Albion into an all day event!

 

[Publius Ovidius]

actually that is a very good point.

I have noticed that when you go to watch Rugby, there is not this fevourish crush to get out of the ground as there is at football.

At the Madj, the bars remain open after the game and people head for them to watch the results coming through on sky and basically socialise.

 

[Gwylan]

actually that is a very good point.

I have noticed that when you go to watch Rugby, there is not this fevourish crush to get out of the ground as there is at football.

At the Madj, the bars remain open after the game and people head for them to watch the results coming through on sky and basically socialise.

One of the main pleasures of rugby is heading for the bar afterwards - in fact, I think it's the main pleasure.

Many a long hour has been spent in the London Welsh bar drinking Felinfoel.

But I can't see us doing the same at the Albion unless there's some Harveys on offer.

 

[DTES]

I'd love to take a look at Lewes's representation sounds a very entertaining read. I'm assuming this information will be made available to the public?

If you want to read it you can find it here:

Lewes's Submission

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Ed, while you're going through it, if you could just proof read it all for insignificant typos etc, thus ensuring that Ruth Kelly doesn't bugger it all up on a trifling technicality this time.

I'm surprised LDC haven't hired that Nick Freeman barrister- the one who gets all the rich people off their drink drive charges on the grounds that there weren't any road signs warning his client not to drink 15 pints before getting into his X5, or a traffic officer forgot to put a full stop at the end of his statement.

I can just see LDC riding up to the European Court of Human Rights with Freeman in tow, complaining that a Yes decision to Falmer was invalid because some civil servant inadvertently spelled the Latin name of a bat species native to Village Way wrongly.

 

[Simster]

But I can't see us doing the same at the Albion unless there's some Harveys on offer.

There bloody better had be.

I'm pleased to say I had a pint of Harveys last night and it was ACE as usual.

 

[TSB]

If you want to read it you can find it here:

Lewes's Submission

Have a look at 'Written Submissions' and check out how many grammatical errors they have made!! There's green lines all over the place!

 

[Titanic]

Blah blah blah...

does ANYBODY really read this stuff ??

 

[Publius Ovidius]

There bloody better had be.

I'm pleased to say I had a pint of Harveys last night and it was ACE as usual.

i had three at the market porter yesterday lunchtime....and they were mighty fine ( I also had the Steak and Harvey's Ale Pie )

 

[Titanic]

How likely is this Rpid Transit system ??

5.17 There have been major new changes in circumstance since the First Secretary of State’s decision, particularly the identification by Brighton and Hove City Council and others of the coastal belt of the City as a hub for major, international level, developments and proposals for a Rapid Transit system to facilitate access between Brighton Station and the various sites involved.(Matter (d)).

5.18 The Sheepcote Valley site is in very close proximity to the eastern end of the hub, and thus would benefit from the ability of football fans to undertake multi-purpose visits to Brighton, thereby spreading the load in terms of transport accessibility.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

Point 1.23

i didn't know how severely the first inspector trashed our need for Falmer specifically as opposed to a stadium any where else.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

5.18 The Sheepcote Valley site is in very close proximity to the eastern end of the hub, and thus would benefit from the ability of football fans to undertake multi-purpose visits to Brighton, thereby spreading the load in terms of transport accessibility.

what multi purpose visits?

We will be travelling to Sheepcoat for the football....nothing else


I know LDC are only picking out what they want, but the First Inspector wasnt that overkeen on our proposals for falmer at all was he? just read the bit about job creation, benefits for the community.....etc.

 

[West Hoathly Seagull]

i had three at the market porter yesterday lunchtime....and they were mighty fine ( I also had the Steak and Harvey's Ale Pie )

And you accuse me of not getting on with my work Right, Mr Gaffer, you owe me a Harveys