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Its not often I back Alex Ferguson, but...



I wouldn't doubt that he is feeling pressure.

But ask youself this people...

If it was Gus being forced to speak to the pess after shitty referreing, would you still want to hang HIM out to dry???

Er, yes. He has an obligation to speak to the media as others have said. If he wants the club to stop taking money from Sky, BBC, etc. then let them do that; then he wouldn't be obligated to talk to them. The man is just a twat.

Apparently he's not speaking to MUTV because they were asked by the FA to send over their tape of his post-match interview from the Chelsea game, where he complained bitterly about the ref, and did so.
 




Westdene Seagull

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Oct 27, 2003
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You can write whatever you want into a contract, doesn't make it binding.

Contract law in this country is very open to interpretation, and unfair contract clauses can be found all over the place.

He would win very easily if he were to challenge them, you cannot force anyone to speak to the press in this country - for any reason.

Indeed you can but having a clause insisting he speaks to the sports major sponsors can hardly be deemed as unfair. In fact, he could choose to ignore that clause and break his contract. Man U could then sue him for any loses they incur due to him breaking his contract. What would be really good would be if the Premier League refused to pay MU their TV money because of it and Man U sued the idiots arse off !!!! He has a choice whether to honour his contract - he should expect the consequences if he doesn't.
 


Westdene Seagull

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If it was Gus being forced to speak to the pess after shitty referreing,

I'd like to think Gus is a bit more intelligent and mature and understands that bad refereeing isn't the fault of the TV sponsors.
 


Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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You can write whatever you want into a contract, doesn't make it binding.

Yes it does. That's why it's called a contract.

Contract law in this country is very open to interpretation, and unfair contract clauses can be found all over the place.

Contract law is open to interpretation in any country, I doubt that English law is any more open to interpretation than foreign legal frameworks. Bear in mind also that organisations such as the FA employ the very best contract lawyers who are best placed to know what is and isn't unfair. Presumably too, Man U would have had their lawyers peruse the contract prior to signing.

He would win very easily if he were to challenge them, you cannot force anyone to speak to the press in this country - for any reason.

Really? Do you know that for sure? If it's in the contract and Fergie has spoken to the press before now why are you so sure he could rescind the clause now?

Surely seeing as he's the longest-serving Premiership manager and therefore has known of the rules longer and abided by the rules the longest it could be shown that he has de facto accepted that speaking to the press was part of the contract. I'd imagine that defence lawyers could easily show this is just Taggart throwing his toys out of the pram.
 






TonyW

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Nobody has any obligation whatsoever to talk to the press - fact!
Sponsors or no sponsors.

If Ferguson refuses to talk to these vicious, controversy-courting twats - then I salute him.

As for being sued for breach of contract - not a chance.
 


Westdene Seagull

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Nobody has any obligation whatsoever to talk to the press - fact!

Opinion NOT fact. Clearly your grasp of contract law is as good as your grasp of the English language.
 


TonyW

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yes it does. That's why it's called a contract.

Wrong!!!



Contract law is open to interpretation in any country, i doubt that english law is any more open to interpretation than foreign legal frameworks. Bear in mind also that organisations such as the fa employ the very best contract lawyers who are best placed to know what is and isn't unfair. Presumably too, man u would have had their lawyers peruse the contract prior to signing.

We are very different to most (if not all other countries on this matter).



Really? Do you know that for sure? If it's in the contract and fergie has spoken to the press before now why are you so sure he could rescind the clause now?

Yes i do.
Its the choice of the individual.
You can't even be forced to speak to the police or in court of law, so as for the press wankers...

Surely seeing as he's the longest-serving premiership manager and therefore has known of the rules longer and abided by the rules the longest it could be shown that he has de facto accepted that speaking to the press was part of the contract. I'd imagine that defence lawyers could easily show this is just taggart throwing his toys out of the pram.

that fact that he has spoken to the press priviosly does not compel him to do so in the future.
 




Gully

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Apr 24, 2004
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Strange move in my opinion. He may be one of the greatest managers of all time but the respect people have for him is starting to wane, his abiding legacy may not be the entertaining teams he has produced or the titles they won but of a bitter old man trapped in fortress Old Trafford winding up the drawbridge. It must be bad when he doesn't allow his players any contact with the media or even let his chimp Phelan go and do his talking for him.

I accept that no manager has an obligation to speak to the press, but the post match interviews of managers like Dalglish, McCarthy and Holloway are informative, honest and entertaining at the same time. Is it any wonder that they are the people for whom many have the greatest respect and not those who whinge about every minor decision that goes against them.
 


The French Mistress

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Feguson gets no money from the media wankers, and eveything he says is blown up to cause controversy.
I wouldn't blame him if he never speaks to the press again.

I certainly wouldn't in his position.

In fact, I have heard that he might be taking legal action against he Premier League for an infringement of civil liberties.

I hope he does.

The Premier League officials are all money-grabbing tosers.
You can't force somebody to talk to the press ffs!!!!!

I do hope you're on a fishing trip...................if not suggest you put your views on the Man U site, it's in his contract to give interviews. What example does he set to any youngster ?
 


Rookie

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Feb 8, 2005
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You can write whatever you want into a contract, doesn't make it binding.

Contract law in this country is very open to interpretation, and unfair contract clauses can be found all over the place.

He would win very easily if he were to challenge them, you cannot force anyone to speak to the press in this country - for any reason.

Interesting theory of contract law there. Could you point me to what part of UCTA or any other unfair contract regulations would cover the unfairness in premier league manager contacts or the contracts the clubs have with the premier league (or football league). All will have been negotiated openly with equal input from all sides so I'm struggling to see where it would be unfair let alone the fact you claim someone would win easily.
 




DJ Leon

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To be precise he will be fined by the FA for not talking to the BBC - the state broadcaster. He can choose as he sees fit who else to talk to. The reason that this is iomportant is that many people (worldwide) cannot afford SKY TV and they will not hear him speak if he chooses to snub the BBC. I would have thought that socialist, man of the people 'Sir' Alex would have appreciated that, but apparently not.
 


Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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Nobody has any obligation whatsoever to talk to the press - fact!
Sponsors or no sponsors.

If Ferguson refuses to talk to these vicious, controversy-courting twats - then I salute him.

As for being sued for breach of contract - not a chance.

Once again you are wrong. In a lot of high profile roles, candidates are told that they have to maintain good relationships with relevant media; TV, papers, radio, internet or whatever is relevant. Implied in that is an expectation that the person will make themselves available to this media. Chief Execs and Chairmen of PLCs and of public sector bodies are certainly bound by this. It's standard practice.

I think that it could easily be shown that football managers are also bound by this (explicitly and implicitly) and although I don't have any proof I would think that individual contracts between managers and their clubs make reference to the manager having to maintain good relationships and a need to make themselves available to the press.
 






Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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that fact that he has spoken to the press priviosly does not compel him to do so in the future.

Brogden v Metropolitan Railways 1867(?) would suggest otherwise.


Edit - Just seen your replies embedded in my first response. I'm done here, I'm arguing with someone who clearly has no knowledge of contract law.
 


Rookie

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Feb 8, 2005
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Brogden v Metropolitan Railways 1867(?) would suggest otherwise.


Edit - Just seen your replies embedded in my first response. I'm done here, I'm arguing with someone who clearly has no knowledge of contract law.

My thoughts exactly, some of the responses did make me laugh though
 


The French Mistress

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Jun 24, 2007
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All getting a bit technical on here.....stated cases now ! We're talking about a miserable bad loser Jock here, come on, don't give him so much respect!
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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If Ferguson refuses to talk to these vicious, controversy-courting twats - then I salute him.

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Why would anyone in their right mind salute him? He's a gutless bully who can't stand being asked difficult questions, the same sort every other manager IN THE WORLD answers.

Ferguson is in charge of arguably the world's biggest football club. To not speak to the wider media is pathetic, to not speak his own MUTV station is comical and makes him look like a knob of the top order. Those interviews are already very soft.

Unfortunately he has lost the plot on this issue, thinks he is above the common herd, interviews are for the little people, and is using various perceived sleights to disguise the real reason which is that he could not stand people daring to question things like tactics and team selection. At Liverpool it was clear both were terrible, so perhaps no coincidence there was a total no-show.
 




Unless I'm mistaken, the press interview celebrities and professionals in the news, on behalf of the public who want to hear from them.

Ferguson has been knighted, but may think he's too exclusive to represent himself - or can't answer all questions?

Any man in his position should be able to stand there and answer a few limited questions as required - and if he doesn't like the questions then say why or don't answer them! The press will soon move on, they hate 'dead air' and need to get something in the short opportunity they are allocated.
 


mcshane in the 79th

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Nov 4, 2005
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I can sort of understand him not WANTING to do an interview as he has had a lot of rough decisions off referees this week, and he is likely to get in trouble by talking about it. But then all other managers have to do it, and as written above, they profit hugely from media coverage. Tough luck Mr Ferguson you can't hide away now the pressure is on I'm afraid.
 


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