What an utterly POINTLESS debate this has become.
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I'm surprised that Germany have never won the world cup.
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Garry Nelson's Left Foot
Well-known member
Can you clarify/expand on this please? The fifa website has west germany down as the 54 champions, as does wikipedia Germany national football team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
I don't remember the team being known as West Germany at the time, I believe we just called them Germany. However, I've looked up thier squad for the tournament and they were certainly all players with West German clubs. I think the team was West Germany but the word West has been added to records since the event to make this clear. I also looked up England's squad and we named 22 players but only took 17 the other 5 being left at home on standby. I'm ashamed to say there was one player named I don't think I've ever heard of, Allenby Chilton of Man U, anybody?
Well, to be strictly accurate, there was never such a country as West Germany.
The name was the Federal Republic of Germany - as opposed to the German Democratic Republic (East Germany). After unification, the country continued to be known as the Federal Republic of Germany, it's just that there are now 16 laender rather than 11. I'm pretty sure that, constitutionally, Germany and "West" Germany are seen as the same so Germany has certainly won three World Cups. I'm sure MoH will correct me if I have that wrong
The name was the Federal Republic of Germany - as opposed to the German Democratic Republic (East Germany). After unification, the country continued to be known as the Federal Republic of Germany, it's just that there are now 16 laender rather than 11. I'm pretty sure that, constitutionally, Germany and "West" Germany are seen as the same so Germany has certainly won three World Cups. I'm sure MoH will correct me if I have that wrong
You are right that the BRD (Bundesrepublik Deutschland or Federal Republic of Germany) is the current name of Germany, as it was before reunification. I haven't got a clue about the constitutional set up though.
brakespear
Doctor Worm
From Wiki:
'Three German teams
After the Second World War, Germany was banned from competition in most sports until about 1950, with none of the three new German states, West Germany, East Germany and Saarland, entering the 1950 FIFA World Cup qualifiers as the DFB was only reinstated as full FIFA member after this World Cup.
[edit] West Germany
As in most aspects of life, the pre-war traditions and organisations of Germany were carried on by the Federal Republic of Germany, which was referred to as West Germany. This applied also to the restored DFB which had its headquarters in Frankfurt am Main and still employed coach Sepp Herberger. With recognition by FIFA and UEFA, the DFB maintained and continued the record of the pre-war team. Neighboring Switzerland was once again the first team that would play (now West) Germany in 1950, with Turkey and Republic of Ireland being the only non-German speaking nations to play them in friendly matches during 1951.[4]
After only 18 post war games in total, West Germany had qualified for the 1954 World Cup, having prevailed against Norway and the "third German state", the Saarland.'
'Three German teams
After the Second World War, Germany was banned from competition in most sports until about 1950, with none of the three new German states, West Germany, East Germany and Saarland, entering the 1950 FIFA World Cup qualifiers as the DFB was only reinstated as full FIFA member after this World Cup.
[edit] West Germany
As in most aspects of life, the pre-war traditions and organisations of Germany were carried on by the Federal Republic of Germany, which was referred to as West Germany. This applied also to the restored DFB which had its headquarters in Frankfurt am Main and still employed coach Sepp Herberger. With recognition by FIFA and UEFA, the DFB maintained and continued the record of the pre-war team. Neighboring Switzerland was once again the first team that would play (now West) Germany in 1950, with Turkey and Republic of Ireland being the only non-German speaking nations to play them in friendly matches during 1951.[4]
After only 18 post war games in total, West Germany had qualified for the 1954 World Cup, having prevailed against Norway and the "third German state", the Saarland.'
Spun Cuppa
Thanks Greens :(
My favourite playground joke from 40 odd years ago...
'The East German pole vault champion has just become the West German pole vault champion...'
Geddit!?
'The East German pole vault champion has just become the West German pole vault champion...'
Geddit!?
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Nigella's Cream Pie
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- Aug 8, 2005
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1954 was nine years AFTER WW2, and nine years after we split them in two for all the right reasons. Therefore a unified Germany has never won the world cup, a bit like they have never won a world war. Shame on them.
The Large One
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What? Split them for the right reasons? Which ones?
The Federal Republic of Germany never became a sovereign state until 1955.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Since when has being a sovereign state been a prerequistite to having a national football team ?
The Phoenix
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It would probably be claimed that the former West Germany is the same as Germany today - it just took over the authority of the East of the country after the collapse of the Berlin Wall.
perth seagull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Yep, and according to FIFA, Germany have inherited West Germany's World Cup history, meaning Germany and West Germany are the same. Is this potentially the most pointless NSC thread since the groundhog day one?
Not quite true. It became an independent state on 23 May 1949, it was recognised as such by other countries in 5 May 1955. It joined NATO four days later.
Superphil
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Do you think after unification here, that West Ham will become "Ham United" and West Brom, "Bromwich United"?
This is getting silly, they will be Bromwich Albion