Ian Wright or Paul Gascoigne - who was the WORST pundit?

[Les Biehn]

At least Gazza had the excuse he was off his face, Ian Wright is awful.

 

[Les Biehn]

*starts jazz hands (not in a rude way)*
'Everything's coming up roses'

 

[beorhthelm]

Sorry, but the guy is thick as pig shit. His vocabulary consists of about 11 words, and the show with Adrian Durham is awful. I remember listening to it once and hearing one of the most tedious and pointless debates of all time. They were discussing whether you can "teach instinct" (yes, really) and Ian Wright said "Look, you can't teach instinct because instinct is... err... instinctive". You're right, Brains of Britain.

erm, but he is right isn't he? instinct is inate, not taught, by definition. just because he doesnt have a 200 word essay to explain this obvious truth, that makes him thick?

for my money Wright spoke the view of the average person up and down the country. nothing wrong with that. he did improve too over the years and when he calmed did speak sence most of the time.

 

[keaton]

erm, but he is right isn't he? instinct is inate, not taught, by definition. just because he doesnt have a 200 word essay to explain this obvious truth, that makes him thick?

for my money Wright spoke the view of the average person up and down the country. nothing wrong with that. he did improve too over the years and when he calmed did speak sence most of the time.

1, You really have a low opinion of the average person
2, Why put that on TV? Talk the idiots at the pub if you want to hear that, shouldn't we be interested and provoked by sports commentators and presenters?

 

[Les Biehn]

I want commentators and pundits to inform me of things I may not have noticed or didn't know.

Not jump up and down on their chair because their son has scored.

 

[NMH]

1, You really have a low opinion of the average person
2, Why put that on TV? Talk the idiots at the pub if you want to hear that, shouldn't we be interested and provoked by sports commentators and presenters?

Yeah, but as far as these posts are saying, he's cutting to the point and stopping some sports commentator from thought-provoking, wasting airtime rabbiting in a long diatribe to a pointless end.

For example;

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[beorhthelm]

For example;

lol, that must be what Garth Crooks models his style on

 

[Man of Harveys]

What Keaton and Les said. I wouldn't expect anyone to pay me for my "normal fan" reactions during a Brighton game, fascinating though they are: me talking to my old man about stuff, shouting abuse at the referee, wondering aloud whether to go for a piss at half-time, cheering when we score - it's equally REAL FAN reactions. And we've all been paying Ian Wright to produce literally nothing much more than that. Maybe I should set up a pay-per-view webcam during games.

 

[Chesney Christ]

1, You really have a low opinion of the average person
2, Why put that on TV? Talk the idiots at the pub if you want to hear that, shouldn't we be interested and provoked by sports commentators and presenters?

1) Agree
2) Precisely

Only in the world of sports punditry are such poor standards of analysis accepted. When I watch sport I want to learn something about the game from the person describing it that I hadn't noticed or didn't already know, I want insight, not to have someone shouting jingoistic nonsense at me. Imagine if history documentaries were narrated in this "man on the street" style.

"Well, the spanish armada.... oh I don't fackin no, I only care about English history."

 

[Simster]

"Well, the spanish armada.... oh I don't fackin no, I only care about English history."

I am reminded of the uber-plastic that is Andy Townsend in 1994 at the WC in the USA. If you want an example of shit lowest-common-denominator punditry, then check this out:

Presenter: Why can't the Spaniards play together Ruud? 
Is it because of rivalries?

Gullit: For sure. The Basques, for instance, feel no real loyality to Spain.

Townsend: Well that's pathetic. The coach should sort it out.

Gullit: Well, it's more complicated than that, Andy.

Townsend: No, it's pathetic. I want to see what happens
when they go 1-0 down, see what character they have then.

So there you have it. And this was supposedly from an "Irishman", a country that is no stranger to relatively recent oppression and internal strife. Chance of an interesting piece of social analysis ruined by surely the biggest fuckwit in football presentation.

 

[Storer68]

But wasn't he just doing all he was capable of? I could be wrong but I'd have my doubts as to whether anyone from the BBC ever said to him "right, could you act a bit of an unfunny ignorant twat who jumps up and down to keep the thickoes watching in admiration and please, just leave the serious stuff to the others if you don't mind". I suspect if he was acting like a moron, it's because, well...

ex palace scum. 'nuff said

and not good enough to be taken on by us

 

[7:18]

Can't stand listening to Ian Wright

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Where's the option for Garth Crooks?

 

[SJ's Love Monkey]

ex palace scum. 'nuff said

and not good enough to be taken on by us

 

[Storer68]

I know

He had a trial, scored a hatrick, and we still turned him away.

 

[fenech1elphick1]

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gaza was one of my heroes so its got to be wrighty

 

[SJ's Love Monkey]

I know

He had a trial, scored a hatrick, and we still turned him away.

It's almost unbelievable isn't it? Still every club has one of these stories

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

"can't fault his passion" or "a lot of enthusiasm for the game"

...but this is all that matters when England are concerned. No need to bother with any of that technique, artistry or talent nonsense. That's just for those namby-pamby foreign fools.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Calton Palmer !!!!!!

 

[fenech1elphick1]

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It's almost unbelievable isn't it? Still every club has one of these stories

we have 2 roy keane as well they said he was to short man u scum