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How the f*** was that not offside?



RM-Taylor

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Seriously, just seen the goal again on TFLS and he's at least 2 or 3 yards offside.

:tosser:
 




clapham_gull

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Probably because it wasn't a pass from a Tranmere player ?.

The ball rebounds off a Brighton defender after an attempted shot.
 


RM-Taylor

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Still, that player was miles offside when the attempted shot happened.
 


clapham_gull

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Still, that player was miles offside when the attempted shot happened.

Just watched it again on slo-mo and had to look up the rules regarding deflections.

It's judged from when the ball was last touched by the Tranmere player prior to the deflection. If the Brighton defender had definate control of the ball (which he didn't) it would been deemed as a new period of play.

From what I can see, he just on side at the point it leaves the Tranmere players foot, being played on side by at least two players.
 
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clapham_gull

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I thought it did. If a player is offside when a ball is played/shot is took then surely that's an infringment?

See my edited post. When the ball leaves Tranmere players foot, he's onside.

The delay caused by the deflection allows him to creep round the back.
 


RM-Taylor

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See my edited post. When the ball leaves Tranmere players foot, he's onside.

The delay caused by the deflection allows him to creep round the back.

Ohh, alright. :down:

Looked offside from the stand though but guess you can't realy tell without being level.
 


Jul 5, 2003
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Well if you can't really tell from where you were, why start a f***ing thread about it?
 




RM-Taylor

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Well if you can't really tell from where you were, why start a f***ing thread about it?

I'm not saying I didn't know - he looked miles offside. I'm saying it's difficult to get it correct if you're not in line with play and being behind the goal, obviously we weren't.
 




Tenngull

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Sep 15, 2003
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Hasnt the offside rule been changed so that you are not played onside by a deflection now.

Nope, no real changes in Law 11 for several years now. Only thing to change is how referees are instructed to judge 'interfering with play'.Basically it is now supposed to be actually touching the ball, not just running after it.
 






Aug 9, 2003
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Not sure I agree with some of you.

I've just looked at it on Seagulls Player. If you freeze it on slow motion the deepest player you can see on screen when the Tranmere player shoots is Jake Wright (5), the Tranmere scorer is clearly behind him and therefore appears offside.

The only doubt in my mind is whether there are any Albion players who were behind Jake Wright who cannot be seen on screen.
 


Husty

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The defendinf was so woeful though that the goal was pretty much deserved however, the one before and after that were just as woeful
 




seagullsovergrimsby

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Watching from the back of the stand , the Tranny player was offside , the referee didn't have a clue so looked over at the lino for a decision. The 2nd Tranny goal was a decent effort.
 


clapham_gull

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Not sure I agree with some of you.

I've just looked at it on Seagulls Player. If you freeze it on slow motion the deepest player you can see on screen when the Tranmere player shoots is Jake Wright (5), the Tranmere scorer is clearly behind him and therefore appears offside.

The only doubt in my mind is whether there are any Albion players who were behind Jake Wright who cannot be seen on screen.

He's very clearly level and Wright isn't the deepest.

When the ball leaves the Tranmere players foot, there are three Brighton players behind/or at least level with Jake Wright.
 
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