help on a disagreement at work

[Icy Gull]

Celtic and Rangers have got the crowds and if they got into the Premier league they'd get the money too. I am assuming that the Scottish Premier League get a pittance in comparison and yet they still get some quality players. They'd definitely both be around the top six mostly because of their size and the money that would generate.

 

[Rangdo]

Also there is no reason why they ever should join the English leagues.

Money. The Premiershit's reason for everything.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Sorry should of put with the current squads they have.

"Never get anyway near top 4"

so they're not going to sign anyone EVER?

 

[Les Biehn]

I vote a European super league. It would end the travesty that is the Champions league and boost interest in domestic leagues. I would also put caps on the number of foreign players and improve youth areas in the domestic league.

 

[Silent Bob]

I vote a European super league. It would end the travesty that is the Champions league and boost interest in domestic leagues.

How so? I'd have thought if you lose the biggest clubs from each domestic league it would damage interest even further.

Also the Champions League is only a G14 money making operation, but how would a League set up be different?

 

[Uncle Buck]

Well the current managers of Rangers and Celtic hardly set the Premier League alight.

However with the TV money and revenue they get from their gates they would be pushing for the top 4 within a few seasons.

However it should not happen, would be another step towards a Great Britain National Side.

 

[Les Biehn]

How so? I'd have thought if you lose the biggest clubs from each domestic league it would damage interest even further.

Also the Champions League is only a G14 money making operation, but how would a League set up be different?

I dunno, was just thinking out loud really.

If you had a Euro Super League then the winners of that loeague is definately the winners of Europe for a start.

If you played the Euro matchs on a Saturday or a Sunday and the domestic matches on the other day then more people with probably take an interest in the domestic games. Say if Lancashire lost Man U and Liverpool from the domestic league more people would probably go and watch Bolton, Wigan, Everton, Man City, Oldham, Stockport, Tranmere, Blackpool etc... similar thing could happen to London. The big teams are fighting for the ultimate crown so the top end of the domestic leagues could see renewed interest due to being able to get into the elite tier. For teams lower down it would be good because they will accept not getting into the Euro League but will be hoping to do better on the domestic front as they are now on more of an even level.

 

[Grendel]

Why don't you have a look at Celtics Champions league results over the last 10 years, that should be proof enough !!!

Proof enough that they aren't very good, you mean? Since the group stage was introduced in 1993, they've reached the second round a grand total of once. Results since 1999 (they failed to qualify in 1997 & 1998):

1999
1st Qualifying Round - St Patricks Athletic 0-0, 2-0 (2-0)
2nd Qualifying Round - Croatia Zagreb 1-0, 0-3 (1-3)

2002
3rd Qualifying Round - Ajax 3-1, 0-1 (3-2)
1st Round Group
Juventus 2-3, 4-3
Porto 1-0, 0-3
Rosenborg 1-0, 0-2 (3rd place)

2003
3rd Qualifying Round - Basel 3-1, 0-2 (3-3) lost on away goals

2004
2nd Qualifying Round - Kaunas 4-0, 1-0 (5-0)
3rd Qualifying Round - MTK Budapest 4-0, 1-0 (5-0)
1st Round Group
Bayern Munich 1-2, 0-0
Lyon 2-0, 2-3
Anderlecht 0-1, 3-1 (3rd Place)

2005
1st Round Group
Barcelona 1-3, 1-1
AC Milan 1-3, 0-0
Shakhtar Donetsk 0-3, 1-0 (4th place)

2006
2nd Qualifying Round - Artmedia 0-5, 4-0 (4-5)

2007
1st Round Group
Manchester United 2-3, 1-0
FC Copenhagen 1-0, 1-3
Benfica 3-0, 0-3 (2nd place)
2nd Round - Milan 0-0, 0-1 (0-1)

 

[Badger]

Having a Super League would surely just increase the gap between the top few clubs and the ones on the fringe. All the decent players would go to the teams in the Super League along with all the money no doubt.