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Gus and the FA Cup
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Marc1901
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SeagullSongs
And it's all gone quiet..
Brighton boss Gus Poyet is hoping his FA Cup record against Newcastle United can continue on Saturday in the weekend's first tie.
The Uruguayan led his side to a Fourth Round victory over the Magpies last season and was also a thorn in their side during his playing days with Chelsea and Spurs.
He scored two goals against them for Chelsea in the Semi-Final of 2000 at Wembley, before helping the Blues to win The Cup against Aston Villa a few months later.
And now Poyet’s Championship high-fliers take on Newcastle at the Amex Stadium for a place in the Fourth Round.
He exclusively told FATV: "First and most, they are a fantastic club and every time I've played against them, especially in the north-east, the atmosphere is unbelievable.
"I was lucky enough to have the chance to score a few goals against them so my relationship with the Newcastle fans is probably a little bit of hate from them, but I'm sure that they like me as well.
"When you play against a team and you do so well, there are a few who probably like you, or they would like you to play for them!”
Poyet also believes The FA Cup is best cup competition in the world, so wants his side to progress as far as possible.
After a career with clubs in Uruguay, Spain and England, he’s experienced numerous football competitions but admits winning The Cup with Chelsea stands out.
"When you are a foreigner watching English football and you see that red carpet and the managers with the big flower, any player who comes to England is thinking that if they’re lucky enough, they will be able to play once in The FA Cup Final,” he added.
"So to be able to play in one and win it is even better.
"I say this coming from Uruguay, where there is no cup and from Spain where there is the Copa Del Rey, but The FA Cup is the greatest cup in the world.”
Last season’s tie between the clubs saw a narrow victory for Brighton thanks to a Mike Williamson own goal, so Alan Pardew’s side will want to avenge that.
And Poyet admits that another match against Newcastle wasn’t exactly the tie that he was looking for in December's Third Round draw.
He added: "When you are not in the Premier League, you want to play against every single one of them, but at different times.
"But it's going to be difficult and I'm sure the Newcastle players will want to come here and show they are better than us, because they are better than us.”
Seems pretty conclusive. But he could just be paying it lip service? I don't doubt that he loves the FA Cup, but I'm sure he'd rather finish in the top 6 than make it to the Quarter Finals, for example (not that they are mutually exclusive events).
The Uruguayan led his side to a Fourth Round victory over the Magpies last season and was also a thorn in their side during his playing days with Chelsea and Spurs.
He scored two goals against them for Chelsea in the Semi-Final of 2000 at Wembley, before helping the Blues to win The Cup against Aston Villa a few months later.
And now Poyet’s Championship high-fliers take on Newcastle at the Amex Stadium for a place in the Fourth Round.
He exclusively told FATV: "First and most, they are a fantastic club and every time I've played against them, especially in the north-east, the atmosphere is unbelievable.
"I was lucky enough to have the chance to score a few goals against them so my relationship with the Newcastle fans is probably a little bit of hate from them, but I'm sure that they like me as well.
"When you play against a team and you do so well, there are a few who probably like you, or they would like you to play for them!”
Poyet also believes The FA Cup is best cup competition in the world, so wants his side to progress as far as possible.
After a career with clubs in Uruguay, Spain and England, he’s experienced numerous football competitions but admits winning The Cup with Chelsea stands out.
"When you are a foreigner watching English football and you see that red carpet and the managers with the big flower, any player who comes to England is thinking that if they’re lucky enough, they will be able to play once in The FA Cup Final,” he added.
"So to be able to play in one and win it is even better.
"I say this coming from Uruguay, where there is no cup and from Spain where there is the Copa Del Rey, but The FA Cup is the greatest cup in the world.”
Last season’s tie between the clubs saw a narrow victory for Brighton thanks to a Mike Williamson own goal, so Alan Pardew’s side will want to avenge that.
And Poyet admits that another match against Newcastle wasn’t exactly the tie that he was looking for in December's Third Round draw.
He added: "When you are not in the Premier League, you want to play against every single one of them, but at different times.
"But it's going to be difficult and I'm sure the Newcastle players will want to come here and show they are better than us, because they are better than us.”
Seems pretty conclusive. But he could just be paying it lip service? I don't doubt that he loves the FA Cup, but I'm sure he'd rather finish in the top 6 than make it to the Quarter Finals, for example (not that they are mutually exclusive events).
That and the fact we didn't take it seriously last year. We were shite against Wrexham. Twice.
Icy Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Maybe I wasn't clear, I assume that we will play a full team against Newcastle, the question was if we fielded a weakened side in the next round, assuming we beat Newcastle, should we have surged up the table and be in a strong play off position or possibly with a tilt at auto. If we play a big team again, of course we will play a full team, especially at home. It was more a question of whether you'd be bothered too much if we'd then concentrate on promotion and play a weakened side in an away game against maybe someone like Preston or Scunthorpe ( or the like assuming that they are out of the cup.
As I said, in retrospect and I didn't agree at the time, I think Gus got it spot on in concentrating on promotion from league 1, if we found ourselves in a great position come the next round would you feel really put our if we didn't field our strongest team against lesser opposition?
If we are still mid table then obviously a full team is a no brainer but if we were challenging for promotion, would it be reasonable for the cup to take a back seat?
As I said, in retrospect and I didn't agree at the time, I think Gus got it spot on in concentrating on promotion from league 1, if we found ourselves in a great position come the next round would you feel really put our if we didn't field our strongest team against lesser opposition?
If we are still mid table then obviously a full team is a no brainer but if we were challenging for promotion, would it be reasonable for the cup to take a back seat?
Norman Potting
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That, plus the comments that it may tempt some armchair fans to come to a game also that Scouts from other teams probably don't rely on televised games to check out a player.
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
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I would love a full strength side to give it a right go.
rjbseagull
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- Apr 27, 2010
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Slightly separate point but I'm assuming Bridge and Hammond are available?
Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
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Part of our problem this season has been the inconsistency in the starting eleven (some decisions forced some not)
If we have any aspirations of going up we need to gain consistency and that means treating the cup games with the same approach as the league. I don't mind us being a bit more cavalier in the cup game in how we setup but the idea of breaking up a winning team and fielding reserves is neither needed or should be considered for a club of our size
If we have any aspirations of going up we need to gain consistency and that means treating the cup games with the same approach as the league. I don't mind us being a bit more cavalier in the cup game in how we setup but the idea of breaking up a winning team and fielding reserves is neither needed or should be considered for a club of our size
Twinkle Toes
Growing old disgracefully
And me. Newcastle are there for the taking if we put out our strongest side (& Pardew's record against us is wonderously woeful).
ATTACK. ATTACK. ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!
*Awaits changes aplenty & a sound drubbing from the Bar Codes*
misterspatch
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I would love if we smashed them 3-0 or more and so therefore a strong team is important but if we get someone like United or City we might just throw in the towel.
Gazwag
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Bridge played in the League Cup game
Goldstone Rapper
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Luckily we don't need either for the League Cup this season.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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On a slightly related matter, we might not win the *actual* cup, but I reckon we've got a pretty good shout in this competition:
FA Cups greatest own goals on one video | The Sun |Sport|Football
FA Cups greatest own goals on one video | The Sun |Sport|Football
Publius Ovidius
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I concur with comrade Brovion. Hail!
The best reason I can think of to take it seriously is that it will create a winning mentality and a bit of much needed momentum. And we're perfectly capable of beating an out of sorts Premiership team, especially as we completely OWN Pardew.