General Election tomorrow - Who would you vote for?

[Beach Hut]

Conservative and finally lower the Red Flag - bollox to the lefties

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Conservative and finally lower the Red Flag - bollox to the lefties

except labour aren't 'lefties'

 

[Gully]

Slightly worrying that we appear to be heading for a Tory landslide and not far off the BNP as the official opposition...if a bird had that much right wing it would just fly round in circles.

 

[Beach Hut]

except labour aren't 'lefties'

They peddle right wing policies but bleed red - that is the difference

 

[clapham_gull]

I'll be doing what I usually do at a General Election (which will probably surprise the people who think I'm a screaming lefty)

I'll find the most well meaning but least likely to get in candidate and give them a vote, because if I didn't do there would less chance of a most well meaning but least likely to get in candidate next time round.

It's a vicious circle I know, but I can't get out the habit.

In any case the likelihood of the Tories getting in round here is virtually nil.

 

[clapham_gull]

Slightly worrying that we appear to be heading for a Tory landslide and not far off the BNP as the official opposition...if a bird had that much right wing it would just fly round in circles.

Absolutely 100% won't happen. They wouldn't be able to find enough candidates for a start.

 

[Beach Hut]

I'll be doing what I usually do at a General Election (which will probably surprise the people who think I'm a screaming lefty)

I'll find the most well meaning but least likely to get in candidate and give them a vote, because if I didn't do there would less chance of a most well meaning but least likely to get in candidate next time round.

It's a vicious circle I know, but I can't get out the habit.

In any case the likelihood of the Tories getting in round here is virtually nil.

Get a life you leftie queen

 

[Gully]

Absolutely 100% won't happen. They wouldn't be able to find enough candidates for a start.

I know that, plus NSC isn't really representative of the country as a whole...mainly blokes aged between say 20-40, the majority of whom live in the South East of England.

 

[clapham_gull]

I know that, plus NSC isn't really representative of the country as a whole...mainly blokes aged between say 20-40, the majority of whom live in the South East of England.

They still wouldn't be able to find enough electable candidates.

They struggle now. It's hard to find people with views like that who are able to control their true feelings when the media spot light is on them.

Voting for them is different, anyone can do that. But for them to find enough candidates is a whole different ball game.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I find it quite worrying that the BNP are on course to be the official opposition.

Anyway....Labour supporters, please tell me what achievements of this labour government you are actually proud of?

 

[sod1]

bnp

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Good question Robin.

For me I am shocked how short people's memories are and how people are so easily influenced by the media (altho I suppose I shouldn't be).

This goıernment is not a Labour government.... it is a Liberal governement and under the iron hand of Blair domestically it was very successful. The standards of life in the UK up until last year were better than anywhere else in Europe and for the first time it was true to say that economically the pound smashed the dollar. In the last year this has come apart... partly due to global economic issues outside our control and partly to the fact that Blair's minions let loose the control just as Brown got in. To be fair to Brown, he has been given a poisoned chalice and he is not media friendly.... he is another Gore.

Internationally this country has been a disaster... being led by the nose by American foriegn policy but to be brutally honest I suspect any other party would have done the same.... Britain dare not lose its status as the broker between America and the EU without losing the amount of power it has in Europe.

All said and done I would find it hard to vote Labour as Labour shows no signs of pulling itself together... it's so much reminiscent of after-Thatcher tories.

Media wise Cameron has been fabulous, painting himself to be the less than blue conservative who can reach across the divide.

BUT...... have we all forgotten so quickly 1978-9... didn't a certain young lady offer the same image to the public then? So many of us thought Thatcher would end the Con-Lab war.... how so very wrong we were. 2005 was a great time to live in England (if you forgot about Iraq)... we really have not had it so good since...... just before the miner's strike... after that, with that success and the success of the Falklands, Thatcher was able to show her true dark blue colours.

For me the echoes in the way Cameron is being marketed and how he is promoting himself is all too resonant with 78-9 and, although I no longer live in England I invest in England's future so therefore have the right to vote and have my opinions heard.

For this reason I have no choice but to vote for the tarnished Labour party just as if I had known what Thatcher would have become I would have voted for Callaghan regardless of his chances. It is a case of taking the lesser evil. Any other vote will always be wasted in our polarised political system.

 

[Titanic]

Labour

28 23.53%
Conservative

56 47.06%

You wouldn't guess that from the posts on this thread though

 

[Gully]

Labour

28 23.53%
Conservative

56 47.06%

You wouldn't guess that from the posts on this thread though

This reflects true life, many will vote without thinking, few are willing to air their reasons or rationale behind their choice...preferring to keep this private...it is their democratic right.

 

[London Calling]

This reflects true life, many will vote without thinking, few are willing to air their reasons or rationale behind their choice...preferring to keep this private...it is their democratic right.

but also if you knew that your voted really counted, how many oeople would not vote labour or conservative and be more interested in another option.

To take up Clapham post, his voting tactic is presently a wasted vote. But whether you agree with him or not, he has strong morals, views but at the mo, there is not a party that trully represents what he feels.

I am no different.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

They peddle right wing policies but bleed red - that is the difference

no, if they have right wing policies they are right wing (well, actually just right of centre), doesn't matter what 'colour' they 'bleed', they don't represent 'lefties' at all

 

[Gully]

but also if you knew that your voted really counted, how many oeople would not vote labour or conservative and be more interested in another option.

To take up Clapham post, his voting tactic is presently a wasted vote. But whether you agree with him or not, he has strong morals, views but at the mo, there is not a party that trully represents what he feels.

I am no different.

In an earlier post I stated that I voted tactically at the last election, for the first time, the party that I have otherwise voted for isn't in with a hope and I had to make a choice between the two who were likely to succeed...for what it is worth I think my choice was the right one, we have an excellent constituency MP who showed his true value during the floods last year and has recently become a junior minister.

However, I do take issue with the fact that my vote would be wasted if I went for the party whose principles and aims I largely support. This then opens up the can of worms about proportional representation, there are undoubtedly pros and cons of any electoral system. At least with PR the parties would have to fight for every share and the voter would be sure their vote meant something, thus we would have a Parliament truly representative of the national vote and not one where someone can have an absolute majority with say 40% of cast votes.

 

[Titanic]

...At least with PR the parties would have to fight for every share and the voter would be sure their vote meant something, thus we would have a Parliament truly representative of the national vote ...

and full of party cronies who sucked up to someone to get on the 'party list'.

 

[London Calling]

In an earlier post I stated that I voted tactically at the last election, for the first time, the party that I have otherwise voted for isn't in with a hope and I had to make a choice between the two who were likely to succeed...for what it is worth I think my choice was the right one, we have an excellent constituency MP who showed his true value during the floods last year and has recently become a junior minister.

However, I do take issue with the fact that my vote would be wasted if I went for the party whose principles and aims I largely support. This then opens up the can of worms about proportional representation, there are undoubtedly pros and cons of any electoral system. At least with PR the parties would have to fight for every share and the voter would be sure their vote meant something, thus we would have a Parliament truly representative of the national vote and not one where someone can have an absolute majority with say 40% of cast votes.

ii I believe in proportional representation as posters be able to gather.

At the last election our lowest turnout ever! Was it around 50% of the population voted.

Anaylyse's looked at Denmark it recorded over 90% with PR, they interviewed a young woman who had just voted for the Left Democrats or something, definately a socialist party.

Her aim was to ensure that they got a vote of X % and above so her views would be at least be represented.

HOW MANY OF US ON HERE ARE OF THE LIBERAL/ labour/ green persuassion, who believe in the enviroment, social wefare, good morality of politics and foreign policy, support Greenpeace, or Friends of the Earth, Amnesty International but know if we voted green or lib dems or an alternative socialist pary, that it just be a waste of time at the mo.

And thats one of the reasons we have a disinterested electorate especially the under 30's, who have strong beliefs but cannot see our present system and the present main parties representing them.

Instead we just get "Labour has been in long enough, I vote for the other lot"

 

[London Calling]

and full of party cronies who sucked up to someone to get on the 'party list'.

But that's no different to what we have now?

How much say do you have over the reps put forward at your local ward elections, general election, european election?

It must be better to have a greater choice. It must be wrong, that if I lived in an area, where the Conservative candidate stood a chance of winning, I would vote for whoever, to stop them winning, but not necesarily who I wanted to represent me?!

As it happens I live in one of Labour's strongest areas, where sometimes there is not even a Conservative candidate!!! But loads of leftie parties.