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Front page of the Argus. Baker at it again.
- Thread starter Biscuit
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Wardy
NSC's Benefits Guru
Me too, i had a letter from Nigel Waterson today in response to my asking why he hadn't signed the EDM. After the normal its not in my cinstituency so i don't feel i can have a public view on it, he said "I have to say, I was very puzzled recently and dissappointed to hear that my Parlimentary neighbour, Norman Baker MP, had turned up at the Public Inquiry to argue against the proposal."
Sergi Gotsmanov
New member
Let his party know what he is up to.
Highlight the comment above from one of his fellow MP's.
Remind him what happened to the last lib dem in East sussex who messed with us.
Highlight the comment above from one of his fellow MP's.
Remind him what happened to the last lib dem in East sussex who messed with us.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Baker's theory is that Prescott is trying to spin the whole thing out as long as possible, in the belief that this will protect his (and the Labour Party's interests).
I find that difficult to believe. If anything, delaying the decision will be what damages Labour.
Like most politicians, Baker sees things from the politician's point of view.
It might just be the case (and I think it is) that the issue is being treated by the ODPM as primarily a planning thing and not a political thing - although, having seen Collyer's report, we have to concede that the campaigning has had the effect of turning an easy 'NO' decision into a difficult, but eventual, 'YES' outcome.
I find that difficult to believe. If anything, delaying the decision will be what damages Labour.
Like most politicians, Baker sees things from the politician's point of view.
It might just be the case (and I think it is) that the issue is being treated by the ODPM as primarily a planning thing and not a political thing - although, having seen Collyer's report, we have to concede that the campaigning has had the effect of turning an easy 'NO' decision into a difficult, but eventual, 'YES' outcome.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
I believe in Joe Hendry
- Oct 4, 2003
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I thought Baker had been told to keep his trap shut by Charles Kennedy, leader of the Lib Dems, as he was causing damage to the Lib Dem reputation in Lewes and Sussex.
Bwian
Kiss my (_!_)
- Jul 14, 2003
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joey_jo_jo_jr_shabadoo said:
And Charles (where's my fence to sit on) Kennedy strikes terror into the likes of Baker and will get him to stop his ramblings? Maybe the LibDumbs are anti-Falmer too... this week! They'll support whoever looks like being the eventual winner and Baker will continue being Baker.
A Lib Dem twat aided and abetted those bastards Archer and Stanley and now we've got the 'son of Bellotti' doing his best to finish the job needle nose started!
The Clown of Pevensey Bay
Well-known member
Tell Charles Kennedy what you think of Norman Baker HERE:
http://www.charleskennedy.org.uk/contact.htm
http://www.charleskennedy.org.uk/contact.htm
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Up to a point. Tuesday's letter was from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister. Their planning team are responsible for advising whichever Secretary of State is in post.Biscuit said:
Even if UKIP won the next general election, the same team of civil servants would be responsible for managing the planning process.
Whilst Prescott's name is associated with the decision to re-open the Public Inquiry, he will have been advised by his civil servants that his options were highly constrained by the requirements of planning law. Civil servants have a duty to protect their political masters against the possibility of legal challenge.
Gilliver's Travels
Peripatetic
I took my chance to tell Charles Kennedy when I got to meet him last year that Baker was inexplicably anti-Falmer. He replied that this was odd, as "Norman is a pretty sound kinda guy, and must have his reasons." He promised he'd have the matter looked into. Hmmm...
Clearly Norm has not changed, but it's now obvious his anti-stadium view is not shared by all his Westminster colleagues.
Other people reluctantly concede that Baker is a good constituency MP, whose views on the big issues - this crucial one apart - they themselves would generally share. I looked at his website and can see what they mean... (anti-Iraq war, monarchy, top-up fees, hunting, animal experiments, guns, 4 x 4s... )
But on Falmer he is most certainly being a pillock. End of.
Clearly Norm has not changed, but it's now obvious his anti-stadium view is not shared by all his Westminster colleagues.
Other people reluctantly concede that Baker is a good constituency MP, whose views on the big issues - this crucial one apart - they themselves would generally share. I looked at his website and can see what they mean... (anti-Iraq war, monarchy, top-up fees, hunting, animal experiments, guns, 4 x 4s... )
But on Falmer he is most certainly being a pillock. End of.
Bwian said:
Nonsense. A greater proportion of the 55 Lib Dem MPs have signed the EDM than MPs from other parties.
Get your facts right before coming up with silly rants like this. Yes, there is Norman Baker on the other side, but saying all Lib Dems oppose Falmer is wrong.
I think you've partly put your finger on it. It's so much easier to be AGAINST things and Baker does it in Spades. Sure we can all say we're in favor of World Peace, eradicating hunger and finding a cure for AIDS but I bet we've all got different ideas of what the 'best' way would be to achieve that. It's so much easier to oppose the detail of other people's ideas whilst only giving general suggestions of your own.Gilliver's Travels said:
balloonboy
aka Jim in the West
The LibDem spekesman on Planning issues is categorically FOR Falmer, according to a letter I received from him:
"Please accept my apologies for the length of time that it has taken me to respond, bit as LibDem spokesman on planning issues I wanted to ensure I had all of the facts before adding my support to EDM 889. I am now in a position to confirm that after consulting with other representatives of both the Parliamentary Liberal Democrats and Brighton & Hove Liberal Democrat councillors, I have signed the EDM" (Edward Davey, MP)
"Please accept my apologies for the length of time that it has taken me to respond, bit as LibDem spokesman on planning issues I wanted to ensure I had all of the facts before adding my support to EDM 889. I am now in a position to confirm that after consulting with other representatives of both the Parliamentary Liberal Democrats and Brighton & Hove Liberal Democrat councillors, I have signed the EDM" (Edward Davey, MP)