"Forest Gate 2" have just beeen released without charges

[London Calling]

The Police will get blamed again for cocking up.

But who gave them the duff info.

Our security forces are a frigging joke?

Or is this a cunning plan to piss off all non-whites in the UK?

 

[London Irish]

Was that the one they shot?

 

[The Clown of Pevensey Bay]

Apparently the intelligence services said there were weapons of mass destruction in there, that could have been deployed in 45 minutes.

 

[Bozza]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

 

[Screaming J]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If true; this is a massive own goal.

I do know where Bozza is coming from; but how would any of us fancy a scenario where you are lying in bed early one morning, possibly - if you are fortunate (who knows!) - in a post coital miasma. Suddenly Old Bill bursts in all guns blazing just because someone tipped them off. This is because they watched you take delivery of a couple of sacks of John Innis No.1 and because you happen to have slightly darker skin than Kate Moss.

Lets face it, their intelligence is about as reliable as tips on NSC for the 3:30 at Kempton.

 

[Beach Hut]

I cannot beleive the Met would have done this without some form of evidence.

So they got it wrong but best check rather than face the enquiry after the event has happened.

 

[Bozza]

I heard a discussion on this on Radio 4 (I think) a few days back - so obviously before these chaps were released without charge.

One of those debating the point said he wanted to go back to when the police gathered evidence before making an arrest. I questioned this at the time, and I still do - is that always an option in the world we live in today?

There is no way the police would mount a 250 man operation unless they had very credible intelligence that something was amiss. That "intelligence" on this occasion has proven to be woefully incorrect and I'm sure, out of our inquisitive eyes, actions will be taken with respect to the specific intelligence channel that has proven to have failed this time round.

 

[The Clown of Pevensey Bay]

The police have always said they acted on intelligence from the Security Service, don't forget. So, unlike in the de Menezes case, they were just following orders here.

Not that I don't expect them to get a complete panning for it anyway.

 

[Beach Hut]

I very much hope they don't if they are acting on advice.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

My old neck of the woods, Forest Gate. Used to own a house there, nice part of London, loved it. Huge ethnic mix, so this whole episode has caused problems. Muslims there feel victimised as it is a lot of the time, so this will have only exacerbated it.

Police / security intelligence in this country is shit.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

The compensation pay out for a gunshot wound to the shoulder will be massive.

 

[enigma]

My old neck of the woods, Forest Gate. Used to own a house there, nice part of London, loved it. Huge ethnic mix, so this whole episode has caused problems. Muslims there feel victimised as it is a lot of the time, so this will have only exacerbated it.

Police / security intelligence in this country is shit.

Nice part of London? Granted, the houses arent as bad as they might be, but Forest Gate is a dump, no two ways about it.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

The compensation pay out for a gunshot wound to the shoulder will be massive.

Perhaps that explains the story that one brother shot the other after taking a gun out of the hand of a trained weapons officer.

 

[Faldo]

I'd rather they f*** up and cause a stink, than miss everything and have all kinds of shit break loose...

Oh wait...

 

[looney]

So far since last years attack, 3 attempts have been foiled and 60 people are waiting trial on terrorist charges.

Some innocents will be caught up but better that than letting some slip through the net.

As we are on intelligence matters, the tip of in iraq about Zaquarwi also produced a gold mine of accurate intelligence.