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FIFA and UEFA appeal against UK showing tournaments on free-to-air TV



The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Football bodies Fifa and Uefa have appealed against a European ruling that the World Cup and Euro Championships must be on free-to-air TV in the UK.

In February, the European General Court said the UK could keep the events on a list of "protected" events of national sporting interest shown for free. It means the two tournaments cannot be sold exclusively to pay-TV firms.

Fifa and Uefa say they cannot sell the events fairly, and the cases will now go to the European Court of Justice.

Football's world governing body has been in the news this week with allegations from former FA chairman Lord Triesman that four Fifa members sought "bribes" in return for backing England's failed 2018 World Cup bid. The TV cases will be heard in the European Court of Justice, Europe's supreme court, regarding the decision made in the General Court (formerly Court of First Instance) earlier this year.

A spokesman for the European courts said appeals processes were currently taking up to one-and-a-half years from start to finish, and that any actual hearing may not get under way for up to a year.

The BBC and ITV have secured the rights to broadcast the football World Cup finals in 2014. So any potential change of broadcasting towards a future pay-TV model would not take place until the 2018 event in Russia. As well as the cases against the UK, Fifa has also launched an appeal against Belgium showing all World Cup games on free-to-air.

"The grounds of appeal open to Uefa and Fifa appear to be relatively limited," said Daniel Geey, an expert on TV rights deals at Field Fisher Waterhouse solicitors. He said the football bodies could only appeal on points of law - such as the General Court's competence, or whether the court breached procedural steps or infringed European Union law.

"They [Fifa and Uefa] cannot not simply repeat arguments that were already set out and heard by the General Court and expect the decision to be overturned," Mr Geey said. "UEFA and FIFA are now in injury time if they are to pull off a last minute winner. Although not inconceivable, the odds of snatching victory appear to be stacked against football's two most powerful football bodies."

Fifa and Uefa have argued that the current set-up interferes with their ability to sell television rights at the best price. They do not see any reason why all games at tournaments should be shown free on UK television, as part of a list of national sporting "crown jewels" that have to be made available to everyone to watch.

The two football bodies have said that any games featuring England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland will still been shown on TV for free, as will the finals and semi-finals of the tournaments. But under their plans the rest of the "non-core" World Cup matches and European Championship matches would not have to be shown free in the UK.

Mr Geey said the football bodies believed they should have the ability to sell such "non-core" matches to pay-TV operators. "With such operators more likely to pay larger amounts for exclusive premium content, both organisations would argue increasing commercial revenues would be further invested back into the game," said Mr Geey.

Uefa has said the listing infringes its property rights, as it results "in a restriction" of the way in which it can "market the television rights to the Euro [championships]". In addition, it has said that showing the entire tournament on free-to-air TV in the UK has led to "a disproportionate and unjustified distortion of competition on the relevant market".

Fifa earned a minimum of $2bn in TV and media rights deals for the South Africa 2010 World Cup. And Uefa said turnover during the three-week Euro 2008 tournament in Austria and Switzerland was $2.04bn, with more than half the cash coming from the sale of broadcasting rights.








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xenophon

speed of life
Jul 11, 2009
3,260
BR8
The thing is, it will probably happen, sooner or later you'll have to pay for it.

Football ceased being the people's game in 1992
 




itszamora

Go Jazz Go
Sep 21, 2003
7,282
London
Sums up pretty much everything wrong with football these days. It's such a shame that a group of people kicking a ball around a field has stopped being about that and become entirely about money.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,864
"Fifa and Uefa have argued that the current set-up interferes with their ability to sell television rights at the best price."

now what exactly is the purpose of Fifa and Uefa? are they commercial enterprises, with an expectation to maximise the returns on their shareholders investments? or are they supposed to be governing bodies to oversee a sport.

seriously, why do they even need the money and what do they actually spend it on (bribes aside).
 








Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,729
"Fifa and Uefa have argued that the current set-up interferes with their ability to sell television rights at the best price."

now what exactly is the purpose of Fifa and Uefa? are they commercial enterprises, with an expectation to maximise the returns on their shareholders investments? or are they supposed to be governing bodies to oversee a sport.

seriously, why do they even need the money and what do they actually spend it on (bribes aside).
Exactly right. They seem to behave like privatised bus and train companies, well all know that their main raison d'etre isn't to run transport services - it's to make a profit for their shareholders. FIFA and UEFA seem to have forgotten that they're supposed to be administering a sport and running tournaments, not seeing how much money they can can generate.

Mind you, when there are no World Cup bribes to be pocketed I suppose those hookers, drugs, holiday homes, private jets, etc aren't going to pay for themselves are they?
 








happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,120
Eastbourne
Well I for one will be banging on Sky's door, begging to pay loads of money to watch the all-conquering Togo battle against the mighty Costa Rica.
 


It ceased being the people's game in the 1980's when the holligans took over. 1992 was an inevitability given the 'people' f***ed over their own game!

And indeed STILL ARE in some countries!

The UK model is an excellent one now, a success that still requires maintaining.
Why UEFA seem to have leaned back in satisfaction and not enforced requirements on other European countries is beyond me.
They are like the FA in handing out punishments, but not taking precautions to preempt obvious problems before they become disasters.
 


xenophon

speed of life
Jul 11, 2009
3,260
BR8
Ah the old "hooligan" argument rolled out again to defame the game in the 1980s. If you wanted a tear up at those games you could easily find one, if you didn't you didn't, it wasn't the problem people today seem to think it was IMHO.

The real problem was the perennial middle class angst about the perceived uppityness of young working class people enjoying themselves in a peculiarly working class way. A good old day out a the match was small part of that culture, so they took it over, they've got the game they want now - Soccer AM, 3-D glasses and Chelsea shirts in every pub in the country of a Sunday afternoon, and good old Mondeo Man Dad haunting the club shop with his brats,while paying through the nose to watch Sky Sports. It's shite, all of it, and it's going to get worse - Qatar World Cups and more "product". Football is dead.
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,330
Hove
Ah the old "hooligan" argument rolled out again to defame the game in the 1980s. If you wanted a tear up at those games you could easily find one, if you didn't you didn't, it wasn't the problem people today seem to think it was IMHO.

The real problem was the perennial middle class angst about the perceived uppityness of young working class people enjoying themselves in a peculiarly working class way. A good old day out a the match was small part of that culture, so they took it over, they've got the game they want now - Soccer AM, 3-D glasses and Chelsea shirts in every pub in the country of a Sunday afternoon, and good old Mondeo Man Dad haunting the club shop with his brats,while paying through the nose to watch Sky Sports. It's shite, all of it, and it's going to get worse - Qatar World Cups and more "product". Football is dead.

The game was diseased. Dangerous decrepit grounds, herded around like animals. Bradford, Hysel and Hillsborough in the space of 4 years. That wasn't a class issue, that was an issue with whether football could carry on as it was. 200 dead from just watching a few games of football. You are living in a dream world if you think you could just have a 'tear up' if you felt like it. I remember me and my Dad getting crushed in a so called 'tear-up' in 1987, not a year after Hillsborough at Bournemouth.

If you didn't think the game needed to change at the start of the '90's then you are completely deluded. The discussion of where we are now 20 years later is another matter, but in a lot of ways Sky saved football in 1992.
 




Captain Haddock

New member
Aug 2, 2005
2,128
The Deep Blue Sea
So now the competition, which DESPITE FIFA's highly questionable handling of ticketing, bid-decision-making, rule changes (especially timing) etc etc etc is still a hugely enjoyable event, is now to be taken away from the traditional and excellent coverage the BBC provide (IF FIFA ha their way and won the case, that is).

Haven't these blatantly shady filthsters interfered enough in the people's game.

They don't own the game, they are it's UNtrusted guardians only and should do what we want! I thought they wanted to bring football to the masses (including the footballing heartland that is Qatar)?

I suppose they DO need the money. After all, they hardly milk a penny from the football cash cow as it stands.



Or to put it in simpler terms, f*** off Septic Bladder!!!
 


Jul 24, 2003
2,289
Newbury, Berkshire.
Football stopped being the peoples game when Rupert Murdoch decided he would pay whatever it took to take it away from free-to-air television. Lord Sugar admitted as much last Sunday when he told Sky to outbid ITV's upgraded offer for the PL rights when they were being sold by the club chairmen in 1992.

Ever since then, the game has been taken over by greedy businesssmen ( agents ) and players pushing their noses in like pigs at a trough at feeding time. They have no interest in the game, it's just a means of making money for themselves.

Personnally I think the origins go back even further to Jimmy Hill getting the maximum wage limit abolished. That has lead directly to the astronomical wage bills we have now.
 








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