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coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
This is rubbish, jobs have always gone abroad, the issue is the creation of new jobs you just cant freeze time. The selective exclusion of foreign goods is a fantacy. It would spark a trade war, protectionism and even greater poverty(for BNP supporters), it is also illeagal under international trade agreements and would lead to our expulsion from the G20, Gatt, the UN security Council and quite probably NATO as well. Its isolationist paranoia.

Free trade is where Obama's isolationism becomes explicit. It's one of the few principles on which most economists from right to left agree. But in an effort to appeal to activists and unions who dislike globalization and transnational corporations, Obama outbid Hillary in his skepticism about trade liberalization. He's not about to go back to the high tariffs of the Smoot-Hawley era, but as the Wall Street Journal put it, "On the record so far, Mr. Obama is the most protectionist U.S. Presidential candidate in decades."

Its Ok for the Americans then?
 




Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
This is rubbish, jobs have always gone abroad, the issue is the creation of new jobs you just cant freeze time. The selective exclusion of foreign goods is a fantacy. It would spark a trade war, protectionism and even greater poverty(for BNP supporters), it is also illeagal under international trade agreements and would lead to our expulsion from the G20, Gatt, the UN security Council and quite probably NATO as well. Its isolationist paranoia.

I do agree with you.

But, The USA is planning this very thing.
 


looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Encourage savings, investment, worker share-ownership and profit sharing

For the first part it would be hardly likley to encourage savings and investment when there is no profit to invest because weve pissed of our trading partners, the world, and we are doing virtually no trade with them because of BNP protectionist policies.

As for profit sharing and worker share owning these already exist, if the BNP have some magical way of making it work better then maybe they should provide details rather than soundbite?
 


looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Free trade is where Obama's isolationism becomes explicit. It's one of the few principles on which most economists from right to left agree. But in an effort to appeal to activists and unions who dislike globalization and transnational corporations, Obama outbid Hillary in his skepticism about trade liberalization. He's not about to go back to the high tariffs of the Smoot-Hawley era, but as the Wall Street Journal put it, "On the record so far, Mr. Obama is the most protectionist U.S. Presidential candidate in decades."

Its Ok for the Americans then?

What they say and what they do are not always the same thing, they to are bound by international laws. Yes the Americans would be better placed to get away with it as size matters but it is untenable.
 


coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
Encourage savings, investment, worker share-ownership and profit sharing

For the first part it would be hardly likley to encourage savings and investment when there is no profit to invest because weve pissed of our trading partners, the world, and we are doing virtually no trade with them because of BNP protectionist policies.

As for profit sharing and worker share owning these already exist, if the BNP have some magical way of making it work better then maybe they should provide details rather than soundbite?

Well this government hardly encourages savings does it with the state of the economy
 




looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Halve the council tax by centralising education costs and eliminate multicultural spending and unnecassary beurocracy

Centralising costs would lead to greater beurocracy because misallocation would increase due to the remoteness of the end user.

Local Government is better at knowing local needs and support services.

eG Central government will not automaticlly realise that in an army town there would be more disabled people due to war injuries, more policing needed for squaddie fights at night, more young families. to aquire information like that takes time and money, increasing beurocracy and quickley becomming out of date.

As for Multi-cultural spending, yea sure sack a few diversity officers but thats not going to halve costs, its mickey mouse economics.
 


looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Well this government hardly encourages savings does it with the state of the economy

Thats not an answer. Just because Labours savings and investment plicy is crap doesn't exonerate the BNP's policies which are even worse.


Google up the Solow growth model for an idea of the scale of investment needed and you would realise that if we had the level of savings of an impoverished african country we would in a short period of time end up like an impoverished african country.
 


Safe.

Well-known member
Jun 8, 2008
2,278
Bloody hell, could you two make it any more obvious that you fancy each other?:safeway2:
 




looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Renationalise monopoly utilities and services, compensating only individual investors and pension funds


well to start with they are not monopolies as they were broken up and sold of to prevent the problems that monopolies suffer from, poor service, to high prices and low investment.

The owners are individuals and investment funds, who else owns parts of these companies? You would then have to fully fund private or part private pensions which would raise taxes, lower investment and savings and add to beurocracy.

If some of the shareholdings are in other companies then failure to compensate them would not only be theft but would leave them with financial liabilities they couldn't cover. Forcing many into bankruptcy and to cut, wages, investment in training and in new capital and machinery.


Am I trying hard enough for you yet coventry?
 


looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Use "electronicly tagged" chain gangs to provide labour for projects such as coastal defences

Will we be going to war with France?

Preserve and restore our traditional County Regiments

And spain?
Strengthen our conventional forces

And germany?
 


Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
I sincerely hope they mean flood defenses there.

I've a feeling they don't....

Is the next manifesto statement 'establish a network of musket factories across the shires'?
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,199
Use "electronicly tagged" chain gangs to provide labour for projects such as coastal defences

Will we be going to war with France?

Preserve and restore our traditional County Regiments

And spain?
Strengthen our conventional forces

And germany?

How about submerging " electronicaly tagged" chained criminals to form artificial reefs ? oh, plus we can attach the BNP activists as a bonus !
 




looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Remove unsightly powercables from beauty spots and bury them underground

Dig up National Heritage sites to bury cables(and jews?).

Re-introduce grammar Schools with entrance exams at 11 to 13

Thats kinda harsh on the BNP core support, do they know of this policy?


Reintrodue...dailey Christian assemblies

What about the millions of non-christians?
Make length of residencey in an area the key criteria for council housing allocation

What about moving to find or change employment? This is absurd.

Invest in a high speed, magnetic levitation, intercity rail network

someones been watching to much Thunderbirds.

allow the privately funded building of a new airport in the thames estuary to reduce pressure on....other airports.

Why? Not many people will be comming here under the BNP and fewer people will be able to afford to leave so we wont need extra airports.
 




looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Devolve powers to the lowest possible level

apart from Education, the right of residence for new citizens, choice of utilities..
 




coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
Thats not an answer. Just because Labours savings and investment plicy is crap doesn't exonerate the BNP's policies which are even worse.


Google up the Solow growth model for an idea of the scale of investment needed and you would realise that if we had the level of savings of an impoverished african country we would in a short period of time end up like an impoverished african country.

are those the same african countries that have been exploited by global capitalism
 


csider

New member
Dec 11, 2006
4,497
Hove
For f*** sake could you merge all the neo-nazi come Nuremburg rally threads into one or dump all but one in childish ramblings?

Its making NSC look like a Bavarian summer party circa 1935.

I am definatley in favour of free speech but its taking the piss a bit. Maybe chang BNP so it reads iluvbutsecx or something, or maybe let em share the big brother forum which would be ironic on so many levels(if its still here).

Or change the site name to National Socialist chat till the season starts?

Please?

Thanks.:)

you seem to be the one getting all would up over it and posting loads on each thread........loon!!!!???:jester:
 




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