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If people are worried about their fuel consumption the best bet would be to use public transport, walk or cycle. :wave:
















If that is not possible, I always found losing the air conditioning, keeping the tyre pressure at an optimum level and reining in my speed.
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,273
If people are worried about their fuel consumption the best bet would be to use public transport, walk or cycle. :wave:
















If that is not possible, I always found losing the air conditioning, keeping the tyre pressure at an optimum level and reining in my speed.

It's a shame that buses will get more expensive too, as they need to use diesel to run which has gone up for them too!


another tip is to keep the weight down by removing anything you don't need to carry arround in the car
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
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As a car hating liberal yoghurt knitting leftie, things like this really don't bother me personally.

However, I'd honestly like to see some way of ensuring all people have access to transport and if that means making petrol much cheaper in the areas with little or no public transport at the expense of places where there is..

.. so be it.

For the people in the village I grew up, a car is a neccesity. Even if that means driving to a local station.
 








Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Diesel taken from the oil refining process before Petrol?
If this is so, then why is it more expensive than Petrol if it's cheaper to produce?
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,273
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Diesel taken from the oil refining process before Petrol?
If this is so, then why is it more expensive than Petrol if it's cheaper to produce?

More people run diesel fueled cars than petrol now, so that and the extra demand means it's now dearer (+ i think the tax rate on diesel was also increased too, after alot of drivers switched to it, but may be wrong)
 


More people run diesel fueled cars than petrol now, so that and the extra demand means it's now dearer (+ i think the tax rate on diesel was also increased too, after alot of drivers switched to it, but may be wrong)

But diesel has been more expensive than petrol now for about seven years, were there more diesel cars on the road then?
 




More people run diesel fueled cars than petrol now, so that and the extra demand means it's now dearer (+ i think the tax rate on diesel was also increased too, after alot of drivers switched to it, but may be wrong)


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1582000/Diesel-cars-'will-outsell-petrol-in-three-years'.html
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,273
Diesel burns less cleanly than petrol, but you get more miles per gallon from it than petrol.

when all the save the environment stuff started, it was inevitable that diesel would get taxed more.

Also there are more diesel than petrol vehicles on the roads now, and they are becoming even more common still, with alot of companies etc switching there fleets from petrol to diesel
 






Diesel burns less cleanly than petrol, but you get more miles per gallon from it than petrol.

when all the save the environment stuff started, it was inevitable that diesel would get taxed more.

Also there are more diesel than petrol vehicles on the roads now, and they are becoming even more common still, with alot of companies etc switching there fleets from petrol to diesel

According to this report there are not more diesel cars on the road yet, have you read the article in the Telegraph?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1582000/Diesel-cars-'will-outsell-petrol-in-three-years'.html

Diesel-powered cars will outsell their petrol counterparts within the next three years as drivers try to avoid tax penalties for fuel inefficient vehicles, motoring experts have claimed.

According to figures published by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, diesel accounted for 40.2 per cent of the 2.4 million cars sold in Britain last year compared to just 13.8 per cent in 1999.


The number of diesel cars on the roads is rising fast
Diesel has already overtaken petrol in terms of total fuel consumed by all vehicles in Britain and last year drivers bought 25.5 billion litres of the fuel compared to just 24 billion of petrol.

The Society says that sales of diesel-powered engines will outstrip their petrol counterparts by 2011 as motorists try and avoid the high tax penalties announced in last week's Budget.

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Chancellor Alistair Darling unveiled a new 'showroom tax' of up to £950 for the highest polluting vehicles such as the Renault Espace, Range Rover and the BMW 5 series.

The plans, which come into force by 2010, are designed to encourage drivers to switch to lower CO2-producing cars.

The Government has said that there will be 2p rise in fuel duty until the autumn and that there will be more above-inflation petrol tax increases in future to encourage greener behaviour. Despite the fact diesel costs about 5 p a litre more than petrol at most pumps, it is far more efficient as it delivers 10-20 per cent more miles for the same fuel.

Under current road tax classifications, drivers of petrol-powered engines have to accept smaller, less powerful cars if they want to move into a cheaper band. If they chose diesel they can still drive larger vehicles and still benefit from the tax concessions for producing less CO2 per mile.

Writing in the report, Paul Everitt, chief executive of Society, said it supported an integrated approach to curbing emissions. "This means ensuring that vehicle technology improvements are complemented by better roads, improved fuel supply and incentives for our customers. He added: "Without this joined-up approach the motor industry's investments in new technology will not deliver the more significant reductions that society rightly demands."
 


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