Early Local Election results - UKIP smashing it

[TomandJerry]

"The Conservative MP John Baron says that Ukip's performance shows that the political establishment - including his party - have been too complacent."

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

You really nailed that

Cool aint I sooooooooo coooooooooooool

 

[TomandJerry]

#VOTE2014 COUNCIL RESULT: Labour gains Croydon from Conservatives

 

[Westdene Seagull]

wow..just wow...The more of them there are, the more comedy I think im going to be laughing at.

'Ukip blames its rubbish London election performance on difficulty appealing to the 'educated and cultured'

I suggest you go and watch last nights Question Time and listen to what the Lib Dem MP had to say. He pointed out that the belittling of the views of the people that have decided to vote for UKIP is one of the main reasons UKIP are becoming popular. He also said the only way to combat UKIP was to enter into adult non-name calling debate taking on board the views of UKIP voters.

 

[piersa]

Cool aint I sooooooooo coooooooooooool

Not really, just shows how out of touch you must be.

 

[spring hall convert]

But the big shift is from the former Lib Dem protest voters to the new partty of protest.

I alluded to the fact I thought this might be happening yesterday. This is very bad news for Labour who I suspect given Clegg's left of Labour manifesto in the last GE expected the lapsed Liberal vote to come back to them, it doesn't look like they will.

I'd really like to speak to someone who voted Liberal in the last GE and is now voting UKIP... the parties are polls apart. Surely if you were voting Lib Dem previously and wanted to make a protest vote, you'd be going down the line of Socialist Labour or the Greens?

 

[spring hall convert]

Leader of Conservative Group on Portsmouth Council [MENTION=838]donna[/MENTION]PCC says she will offer cabinet posts to UKIP to get control

Portsmouth and UKIP. Match made in heaven.

 

[The Spanish]

So they didn't say all those things after all? Well I take it all back. Anyway it shows no coverage is bad coverage. Maybe the greens need to start being scared xenophobic old men.

this tactic is getting more threadbare and less credible by the second. it's time has passed.

shouting that people are thick, square, xenophobic little Englanders is now a busted flush. like the phrase multicultural Britain (in the 90's and 2000's this hectoring and ultimately untrue description seemed to be getting close to being on the front of our passports it was so over used) spectacularly fell out of favour, so the standard forms of attack and defence against euroscepticism and discussion immigration are now being battered by a tidal wave of public opinion.

 

[Albumen]

Sky says results would give Labour 308 seats at a general election
Sky News been doing its own share of the vote number crunching. (It does not use the same projected national share [PNS] figures as the BBC - see 6.58am. It uses a slightly different figure, national equivalent vote [NEV], compiled by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher.)

According to Sky, today's results, if replicated at the general election, would produce these results.

Labour: 308 seats (up 50)

Conservatives: 272 seats (down 34)

Lib Dems: 40 (down 17)

In other words, Labour would be the largest party, but well short of a majority. A result like this would probably produce a Labour/Lib Dem coalition.

 

[piersa]

this tactic is getting more threadbare and less credible by the second. it's time has passed.

shouting that people are thick, square, xenophobic little Englanders is now a busted flush. like the phrase multicultural Britain (in the 90's and 2000's this hectoring and ultimately untrue description seemed to be getting close to being on the front of our passports it was so over used) spectacularly fell out of favour, so the standard forms of attack and defence against euroscepticism and discussion immigration are now being battered by a tidal wave of public opinion.

Spot on, but the mindless sheep that peddle that same nonsense are still doing it and will continue to do so.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I'm no friend of UKIP but this thread is hilarious. Just reading Lord Bracknell's spin and complete denial of what happened yesterday has put a huge smile on my face.

Are you really singling out just UKIP for having local people not experienced in local government? Clutching at straws there, LB.

No, I'm not singling out UKIP - although there are signs that a lot of the candidates that they put up for election at local government level have very little idea about what a local council actually does. I'd make the same criticism of the Green candidates. When they put themselves forward as candidates, the only thought that some candidates have in mind is winning the election. When they actually get elected, they suddenly realise that they have four years of responsibility to administer local services - and that doesn't mean controlling immigration, or saving the planet - and they turn out to be not very interested in that aspect of the job that they find themselves having to do.

How many new UKIP councillors will today be asking "Where's the Town Hall?"

 

[TomandJerry]

"Apparently the Tories had a "margarine strategy" in Croydon. This is from Steve Reed, the Labour MP for Croydon North."


What's the margarine strategy

 

[Nibble]

confirmed.

Senior labour politicians qouted on front page of the Times tomorrow saying Milliband has got it wrong. Carnage.

 

[Albumen]

this tactic is getting more threadbare and less credible by the second. it's time has passed.

shouting that people are thick, square, xenophobic little Englanders is now a busted flush. like the phrase multicultural Britain (in the 90's and 2000's this hectoring and ultimately untrue description seemed to be getting close to being on the front of our passports it was so over used) spectacularly fell out of favour, so the standard forms of attack and defence against euroscepticism and discussion immigration are now being battered by a tidal wave of public opinion.

People may have voted for them, but nothing has changed.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

36% turn out. How utterly depressing.

 

[Hotchilidog]

36% turn out. How utterly depressing.

The most damning statistic of the whole night.

 

[Acker79]

How many new UKIP councillors will today be asking "Where's the Town Hall?"

They'll just look for the building without the English flag on it.*




(*sorry, so obvious! had to do it)

 

[TomandJerry]

Ed Miliband says results in so far from #vote2014 shows a "deep sense of discontent" and a "desire for change"

 

[daveinprague]

'kin hell. You're still peddling that 'laughing' line? It was used widely all over social media and failed spectacularly because UKIP have made massive gains all over the country. Isn't it time for you to swallow your pride, admit you are wrong about them being a 'joke party' and think about why people are voting for them in such large numbers?

(Please don't say because they're thick/racist. Most of them aren't as well you know).

Are you serious about wanting to see them defeated at the polls? If so, then you need to get serious.

Ive already said they are doing well, but not smashing it..... when they have control of some councils, maybe ill take them more seriously.

 

[Nibble]

I suggest you go and watch last nights Question Time and listen to what the Lib Dem MP had to say. He pointed out that the belittling of the views of the people that have decided to vote for UKIP is one of the main reasons UKIP are becoming popular. He also said the only way to combat UKIP was to enter into adult non-name calling debate taking on board the views of UKIP voters.

Absolute flash in the pan last night. We all knew it was coming. UKIP gain some seats. Of course they do. People are using foodbanks, people are losing money, jobs, faith. Clearly hey will get votes. We have said it all along. You wait and see how much in favour they are when constituents attempt to get anything done in their areas. Of course UKIP and it's supporters should still be laughed at. Always. They'll be gone soon enough and we can all get back to normal. Thank god.