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Goring Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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annoying "live the values" type stuff and do you have to go along with it all?

Also is being realistic seen as being negative?
 
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Smithy

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2009
3,417
Hove
Unfortunately, turning up for work and doing your job isn't enough these days. You have to 'play the game'.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,236
Living In a Box
Unfortunately, turning up for work and doing your job isn't enough these days. You have to 'play the game'.

Indeed and around 5 more years left to play, meeting my 4th new manager this year on Tuesday - happy days
 


Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
You mean stuff like this?

"We are Brighton and we've got an identity. We play one way - it doesn't matter where or against who. The players who play for the first team and the reserves play the way I want the team to play. If we can build from it it will be amazing."
 




Goring Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
6,725
Huddersfield
Unfortunately, turning up for work and doing your job isn't enough these days. You have to 'play the game'.

Exactly, I voiced my concerns over the latest "fantastic" idea last week with valid reasons and alternatives to then be pulled to one side later a be told that i was being negative only satisfaction i may get it is when it invariably goes wrong but i'll then have to sort it out and won't be allowed to say " I told you do so"
 


Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
Why is it unreasonable for your employer to expect an employee to behave the way they expect (ie represent the brand they have invested in and keeps you in a job) in return for the money they pay you?
 


Northstander

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2003
14,031
Why is it unreasonable for your employer to expect an employee to behave the way they expect (ie represent the brand they have invested in and keeps you in a job) in return for the money they pay you?

THIS

I can confirm that I have managed a number of people who are and always will be high performers, but if you match them up to typical behaviours expected in the work place, theywould never become "leaders".

Values and Behaviours are a neccessity to identify people with potential and also to guide people on how to behave in a place of wortk and not a school yard.
 






KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
20,881
Wolsingham, County Durham
Realism and negativity are two different things.

If your "realism" came across as "that's a crap idea and it will never work", then that is negativity. If it came across as "that's an interesting idea but can I suggest that we amend it slightly", then that is positive and shows that you are buying into the idea.

I would imagine from what you have written that you came across as the former.
 






The best slogan I have ever seen was the effort by a county council to the west of Sussex to get everyone in the area to do something about reducing waste and increase recycling. It was printed on the envelope of every item of correspondence that they sent out. Somehow it didn't quite hit the button ...

HAMPSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL - THINK WASTE
 


BLOCK F

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Feb 26, 2009
6,635
Realism and negativity are two different things.

If your "realism" came across as "that's a crap idea and it will never work", then that is negativity. If it came across as "that's an interesting idea but can I suggest that we amend it slightly", then that is positive and shows that you are buying into the idea.

I would imagine from what you have written that you came across as the former.

You are correct,but by God ,I have heard some shite spouted by individuals and companies during my career.......all in the name of positivity!
Thankfully,now retired but having,at various times, been employee,company director and self employed!
 
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Fef

Rock God.
Feb 21, 2009
1,729
Feck the Blue Box. I'm sure many on here will know what I'm talking about.

Especially when certain VPs in the past have demonstrated behaviours that are clearly not in accordance with said values.
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
20,881
Wolsingham, County Durham
You are correct,but by God ,I have heard some shite spouted by individuals and companies during my career.......all in the name of positivity!
Thankfully,now retired but having,at various times, been employee,company director and self employed!

:lolol:

As have I. Am self employed now and the worrying part is when the shite being spouted comes from your own mouth!
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
61,940
The Fatherland
THIS

I can confirm that I have managed a number of people who are and always will be high performers, but if you match them up to typical behaviours expected in the work place, theywould never become "leaders".

Values and Behaviours are a neccessity to identify people with potential and also to guide people on how to behave in a place of wortk and not a school yard.

Er, what?
 


All companies have it, fortunately I am no longer part of that particular scene.

I guess like a good many I got sick to the back teeth of the usual "buzzword b******s" that most organisations seen duty bound to come out with. Fortunately I will never again (I hope) have to have it explained to me why geese fly in the particular formation they do and how it relates to my job, or watch that profoundly irritating video about the fish market in Seattle as an example of customer services (those who have seen it will know the one I mean).

I am still oblivious as to what "building a straw man" had to do with anything (one of my bosses had this as a favourite expression), I guess like many I didn't have the guts to put my hand up and say "...what the f**K does that mean, can I have it in English please".
 




Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Corporate bollocks is for twats and those who spout it should die.
 


e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
I am self employed now but you do see re-organisations happen almost annually with companies you have long standing relationships with.
 


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