Division 4 : 10 Years Ago

[Mendoza]

Quite weird looking at Division 4 from the 97/98 Season

We finished 91st, a whole 15 points clear of newly promoted Doncaster and 6 points behind Premiership new boys Hull City in 90th Place

Of course Rochdale were still there and we didnt have a home...

P HW HD HL HGF HGA AW AD AL AGF AGA Points
Notts Co 46 14 7 2 41 20 15 5 3 41 23 99
Macclesfield 46 19 4 0 40 11 4 9 10 23 33 82
Lincoln 46 11 7 5 32 24 9 8 6 28 27 75
Colchester 46 14 5 4 41 24 7 6 10 31 36 74
Torquay 46 14 4 5 39 22 7 7 9 29 37 74
Scarborough 46 14 6 3 44 23 5 9 9 23 35 72
Barnet 46 10 8 5 35 22 9 5 9 26 29 70
Scunthorpe 46 11 7 5 30 24 8 5 10 26 28 69
Rotherham 46 10 9 4 41 30 6 10 7 26 31 67
Peterborough 46 13 6 4 37 16 5 7 11 26 35 67
Leyton Orient 46 14 5 4 40 20 5 7 11 22 27 66
Mansfield 46 11 9 3 42 26 5 8 10 22 29 65
Shrewsbury 46 12 3 8 35 28 4 10 9 26 34 61
Chester 46 12 7 4 34 15 5 3 15 26 46 61
Exeter 46 10 8 5 39 25 5 7 11 29 38 60
Cambridge 46 11 8 4 39 27 3 10 10 24 30 60
Hartlepool 46 10 12 1 40 22 2 11 10 21 31 59
Rochdale 46 15 3 5 43 15 2 4 17 13 40 58
Darlington 46 13 6 4 43 28 1 6 16 13 44 54
Swansea 46 8 8 7 24 16 5 3 15 25 46 50
Cardiff 46 5 13 5 27 22 4 10 9 21 30 50
Hull City 46 10 6 7 36 32 1 2 20 20 51 41
Brighton 46 3 10 10 21 34 3 7 13 17 32 35
Doncaster 46 3 3 17 14 48 1 5 17 16 65 20

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The worst 5 clubs in the entire league, and look at them now. The Albion in L1 and all the others higher.

 

[Easy 10]

Three wins all season.
Jesus we were shit.

 

[Rambo]

Yes and out of that bottom 6 all now have new grounds - except the Albion.
(Cardiff's on the way)

 

[Conkers]

Three wins all season.
Jesus we were shit.

I think you'll find we won 6

 

[The Large One]

Three wins all season.
Jesus we were shit.

Six, atcherly.

3+3 = 6

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

Surprised not to see Reading, Wigan and Fulham in there too.

 

[bhafc99]

What's staggering about that season is that we were so much worse than the year before, when we only survived on the last day at Hereford: 14 points worse in fact (if you add in the 2 points we lost for pitch invasions).

 

[Mendoza]

The bottom 2 in that league have been Promoted 3 times each since then

 

[house your seagull]

if you combined the populations of the bottom 5 clubs you'd have roughly 1.5 million

whatever it is it's not far off the combined populations of the rest of the league.

the nineties were shite - finish '91 90 mins from the first divison and finish the decade as the second worst club in the league (and without a ground)

Wood Out!

 

[Kukev31]

Looking at the other end of the table, Scarborough in the playoffs. Now they are in the Northern Counties League Division 1. Just goes to show how much things can change in 10 years.

 

[ali jenkins]

TEN teams have been in the championship since then

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

At the end of the last season:

Notts Co - 21st in Div 2
Macclesfield - 19th in Div 2
Lincoln - 15th in Div 2
Colchester - just relegated from the Championship
Torquay - Fading badly in the chase to get out of non-league
Scarborough - 20th in the Conference
Barnet - 12th in Div 2
Scunthorpe - Dropped out of the cahmpionship
Rotherham - 9th in Div 2
Peterborough - Promoted to Div 1
Leyton Orient - Mid table Div 1
Mansfield - down and out (taking a BHA scalp on the way)
Shrewsbury - 18th in Div 2
Chester - 22nd and just about safe
Exeter - finished behind Torquay but promoted to Div 2
Cambridge - miss out and stay in teh Blue Square
Hartlepool - 15th Div 1
Rochdale - Play offs but still in Div 2
Darlington - Same as Rochdale
Swansea - easy winners of Div 1
Cardiff - 12th in Championship
Hull City - amazing year to come
Brighton - one year before promotion to Div 1
Doncaster - promoted to Championship

 

[Mendoza]

The Premiership from that season

P HW HD HL HGF HGA AW AD AL AGF AGA Points
Arsenal 38 15 2 2 43 10 8 7 4 25 23 78
Man Utd 38 13 4 2 42 9 10 4 5 31 17 77
Liverpool 38 13 2 4 42 16 5 9 5 26 26 65
Chelsea 38 13 2 4 37 14 7 1 11 34 29 63
Leeds 38 9 5 5 31 21 8 3 8 26 25 59
Blackburn 38 11 4 4 40 26 5 6 8 17 26 58
Aston Villa 38 9 3 7 26 24 8 3 8 23 24 57
West Ham 38 13 4 2 40 18 3 4 12 16 39 56
Derby 38 12 3 4 33 18 4 4 11 19 31 55
Leicester 38 6 10 3 21 15 7 4 8 30 26 53
Coventry 38 8 9 2 26 17 4 7 8 20 27 52
Southampton 38 10 1 8 28 23 4 5 10 22 32 48
Newcastle 38 8 5 6 22 20 3 6 10 13 24 44
Tottenham 38 7 8 4 23 22 4 3 12 21 34 44
MK Dons 38 5 6 8 18 25 5 8 6 16 21 44
Sheff Wed 38 9 5 5 30 26 3 3 13 22 41 44
Everton 38 7 5 7 25 27 2 8 9 16 29 40
Bolton 38 7 8 4 25 22 2 5 12 16 39 40
Barnsley 38 7 4 8 25 35 3 1 15 12 47 35
C Palace 38 2 5 12 15 39 6 4 9 22 32 33

 

[cheeseroll]

The Premiership from that season

P HW HD HL HGF HGA AW AD AL AGF AGA Points
Arsenal 38 15 2 2 43 10 8 7 4 25 23 78
Man Utd 38 13 4 2 42 9 10 4 5 31 17 77
Liverpool 38 13 2 4 42 16 5 9 5 26 26 65
Chelsea 38 13 2 4 37 14 7 1 11 34 29 63

good point!

 

[Easy 10]

I think you'll find we won 6

Oh yeah. Oops.

 

[1234andcounting]

good point!

Absolutely agree. It has hardly changed in the intervening 10 years (although I believe a club currently in League One did gatecrash for a couple of seasons).

I actually enjoy Brighton's journeys through the divisions - and not just for the chance to go to new grounds (121 currently with the Albion). I think most fans of most clubs like the change and the ups and downs (as long as they think they will come back from a down).

The big boys and the authorities (FA/UEFA/FIFA) want to remove all doubt and uncertainty from football. In doing that they will create a certainty that the game as I know and love it will die.

 

[Gully]

Just shows how fortunes ebb and flow, some of the teams who finished above us that season have now dropped out of the league into the BSP, some have gone down and come back again (Barnet and Exeter spring immediately to mind)...Scarborough seem to have done a complete disappearing act. Even when you look at the Premiership, only eleven of the teams will still be there next season and we will be playing against two of the others...three if you include MKWimblekeynes.

 

[Djmiles]

Scarborough - 20th in the Conference

I thought Scarborough were liquidated in 2007?

Edit: Halifax finished 20th last season, where did Scarborough come from?

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

Very interesting.

Some people think things are bad now. Maybe they need reminding just what bad really is.