Inquiry Update: Hour Report, Day 2
Wandered in to an old bloke saying the Gallery speakers dont work so we could go and sit in the main chamber area, unfortunatley the only seats were on the Dark (NIMBY) Side...still at least I got a few Evils in during the time! anyway:
Excuse me if I get the names muddled up but its kinda hard to make out whos who when your an Inquiry newcomer like myself, I believe it was Mr Hopkins, yesterdays NIMBY bloke who was speaking at the time I arrived.
Mainly about Visibility of the sites, and that of the Harbour where a direct road opposite the proposed site made the Stadium visible from North/South and that of West/East would Not be visable. Well if you did'nt move and stood behind a TREE then well done...you got that right
Add to that it was'nt in an AONB or Conservation area of anykind.
Shoreham Airport, the Guy in the Dock (some Landscape expert or something) claimed that New Monks Farm (where the site would go) would cause harm to the surrounding area, the NIMBY Hopkins piped up with "the Airport is alreayd an eyesore on the AONB", purely a metter of Opinion surely, plus as Mr Hyden/Hyland (bloke in the dock) pointed out its already there...and has been for many many years I might add! Building a Stadium would be a huge new eyesore not that of an airfield holding an existing Listed Building amongst its grounds.
Beeding Cement Works, NIMBY Hopkins agreed it was already a Blot on the Landscape as is and asked if the current A27 cits through an AONB...it does and Mr Hyland agreed. Then, from a Shoreham residents (thats me) point of view, an own goal by Hopkins: The A283 running upto the Cement works from the Bypass, Screeing the proposed road (trees/bushes that sort of thing) would create less of an impact and make it fit into its surrounding - My opinion is thats rubbish and as Mr Hyland pointed out its in an area next to a river and the Screening would not be idea, it would be possible but would be "out of character and the road still visable" of which I totally agree.
It then went onto some more drivel about items and paragraphs of page 33, item 353.8 figure B42 and it all got confusing for me! I looked around and to me left in the NIMBY side was Famer Joe with his Beautys (sideburns) slumped in his chair no doubt LOVING the current debate on Land mass and visual impact...the wanker! Then some argument that evidence brought up by a NIMBY should'nt be cross examined, again a tad confusing.
The onto Urban Fringe Development at Falmer, something along the lines of the Stadium would be Extremely Visable (NIMBY) whereas Mr Hyland said "Occasional" (presuming as if you're driving pass it you may notice it). Lots of bickering between the two over those words.
Then pipes up a NIMBY woman who can sit nearer the Mic because her Laptop is in the way, sniggers are heard from the Brighton side including a little fart I released in the excitement...gladly my blushes were spared as no one heard!. Think her name was Mrs McKay/McKie, asking My Hyland to change his wording about Walking About Falmer or some such nonsense, seemed worthless but was probably important for all I know!
Mr Clay then got up to re-examine Mr Hyland, saying that the CountrySide Agencys proposed National Park lines would conflict with Sheepcote North. It then went onto the Kemptown Conservation area and lots of garble garble blah blah crap.....I know much more about transport so yesterday was much better.....today was confusing and I felt lost most of the time.......anyway on they went:
Toads Hole Valley, South, East & West sides have development already, Mr Clay was at this point building upto sticking one up the bum of the NIMBYS. Falmer has development as thus:
North - Uni & A27T (not sure what the T is for)
West - Uni of Brighton
East - Falmer Village (and its puddle...sorry pond)
South - Download....<gulp>....BUT....Already distracted features as the A27 Viallage Way turn off (YES).
Mr Clay then went on about Screening (plants/trees) the Falmer roads by means of 20m high contour and some such, he was going back to earlier points (when I was'nt there) so bascially kept on sticking it to the NIMBYS...good work.
The Landscape Mr Hyland bloke then went on that Toads Hole Valley should remain Open with no screening (so it fits in with surroundings I presume) and that the Uni/A27/Access Road at Falmer are already "Distracting Features".
He then went on that "Glipsed views from Urban Areas are EXTREMELY important", this seems to be directed as an anti-stadium-at-THV again, another piont to us it would seem.
Then the Maps came out, various South Downs Way stuff and lots more confusing head work, I picked a wrong hour its seems!
It ended with the Inspector asking it to Keep to the original leter to that of 26th July, it seems that both sides are trailing away and keep refering back to the original inquiry of which this Inspector does not care about.
I left highly confused and wishing I could've had the Material they were all looking it (would certainly make life easier), still the battle goes on and the fit bird was sat there in all her glory...gives me a good excuse to go back tomorrow, just hope its something thats more up my street!
Wandered in to an old bloke saying the Gallery speakers dont work so we could go and sit in the main chamber area, unfortunatley the only seats were on the Dark (NIMBY) Side...still at least I got a few Evils in during the time! anyway:
Excuse me if I get the names muddled up but its kinda hard to make out whos who when your an Inquiry newcomer like myself, I believe it was Mr Hopkins, yesterdays NIMBY bloke who was speaking at the time I arrived.
Mainly about Visibility of the sites, and that of the Harbour where a direct road opposite the proposed site made the Stadium visible from North/South and that of West/East would Not be visable. Well if you did'nt move and stood behind a TREE then well done...you got that right
Add to that it was'nt in an AONB or Conservation area of anykind.
Shoreham Airport, the Guy in the Dock (some Landscape expert or something) claimed that New Monks Farm (where the site would go) would cause harm to the surrounding area, the NIMBY Hopkins piped up with "the Airport is alreayd an eyesore on the AONB", purely a metter of Opinion surely, plus as Mr Hyden/Hyland (bloke in the dock) pointed out its already there...and has been for many many years I might add! Building a Stadium would be a huge new eyesore not that of an airfield holding an existing Listed Building amongst its grounds.
Beeding Cement Works, NIMBY Hopkins agreed it was already a Blot on the Landscape as is and asked if the current A27 cits through an AONB...it does and Mr Hyland agreed. Then, from a Shoreham residents (thats me) point of view, an own goal by Hopkins: The A283 running upto the Cement works from the Bypass, Screeing the proposed road (trees/bushes that sort of thing) would create less of an impact and make it fit into its surrounding - My opinion is thats rubbish and as Mr Hyland pointed out its in an area next to a river and the Screening would not be idea, it would be possible but would be "out of character and the road still visable" of which I totally agree.
It then went onto some more drivel about items and paragraphs of page 33, item 353.8 figure B42 and it all got confusing for me! I looked around and to me left in the NIMBY side was Famer Joe with his Beautys (sideburns) slumped in his chair no doubt LOVING the current debate on Land mass and visual impact...the wanker! Then some argument that evidence brought up by a NIMBY should'nt be cross examined, again a tad confusing.
The onto Urban Fringe Development at Falmer, something along the lines of the Stadium would be Extremely Visable (NIMBY) whereas Mr Hyland said "Occasional" (presuming as if you're driving pass it you may notice it). Lots of bickering between the two over those words.
Then pipes up a NIMBY woman who can sit nearer the Mic because her Laptop is in the way, sniggers are heard from the Brighton side including a little fart I released in the excitement...gladly my blushes were spared as no one heard!. Think her name was Mrs McKay/McKie, asking My Hyland to change his wording about Walking About Falmer or some such nonsense, seemed worthless but was probably important for all I know!
Mr Clay then got up to re-examine Mr Hyland, saying that the CountrySide Agencys proposed National Park lines would conflict with Sheepcote North. It then went onto the Kemptown Conservation area and lots of garble garble blah blah crap.....I know much more about transport so yesterday was much better.....today was confusing and I felt lost most of the time.......anyway on they went:
Toads Hole Valley, South, East & West sides have development already, Mr Clay was at this point building upto sticking one up the bum of the NIMBYS. Falmer has development as thus:
North - Uni & A27T (not sure what the T is for)
West - Uni of Brighton
East - Falmer Village (and its puddle...sorry pond)
South - Download....<gulp>....BUT....Already distracted features as the A27 Viallage Way turn off (YES).
Mr Clay then went on about Screening (plants/trees) the Falmer roads by means of 20m high contour and some such, he was going back to earlier points (when I was'nt there) so bascially kept on sticking it to the NIMBYS...good work.
The Landscape Mr Hyland bloke then went on that Toads Hole Valley should remain Open with no screening (so it fits in with surroundings I presume) and that the Uni/A27/Access Road at Falmer are already "Distracting Features".
He then went on that "Glipsed views from Urban Areas are EXTREMELY important", this seems to be directed as an anti-stadium-at-THV again, another piont to us it would seem.
Then the Maps came out, various South Downs Way stuff and lots more confusing head work, I picked a wrong hour its seems!
It ended with the Inspector asking it to Keep to the original leter to that of 26th July, it seems that both sides are trailing away and keep refering back to the original inquiry of which this Inspector does not care about.
I left highly confused and wishing I could've had the Material they were all looking it (would certainly make life easier), still the battle goes on and the fit bird was sat there in all her glory...gives me a good excuse to go back tomorrow, just hope its something thats more up my street!
