Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
Why can we not control it if we know what skills or unskilled we are looking for, this is known as CONTROLLED immigration which whilst not having control over our borders seems harder to do.
Of course immigration from non-EU citizens needs tackling but you seem obsessed by the figures and bring them up whenever EU immigration is mentioned. This is about the EU and sorting this in or out issue, the non-EU citizens is a different problem.
As we discussed on the other thread, we're getting mostly unskilled because we need mostly unskilled. British people tend to be qualified and skilled and not applying for these jobs, including poorly-paid public sector work.
You argue we can control it, but the workplace economy tends to be self-controlling. All the Irish and Dutch and Poles and others who come to the UK are here for work, if there is no work they by-and-large go home. My point is that a "controlled" immigration policy is unlikely to look much different to the current one in terms of number of people in the country.
There are large parts of our immigration policy that we can control, but seem quite happy to continue bringing workers in, we gave 171,000 working visas in the year to March 2015. If we were flooded with immigrants from the EU why do we need to give work visas to non-EU residents? They're not all skilled, we give 26,000 working visas to Australians each year, a large number for people working in bars and restaurants. The stats show that 102,000 of the 171,000 working visas are for skilled or highly-skilled people, so the remainder are well, not, and yet we still apparently need them despite the open borders in the EU
You seem to be repeatedly missing Kalimantan Gull's point.
My point Mr Soulman, is that we have unlimited immigration from the EU, a lot of asylum seekers from Syria and elsewhere, family members of 1st generation immigrants coming over, and we still cannot fill all the jobs in Britain - to the degree that we bring in another 170,000 people on work permits.
My point therefore is that controlling or not controlling EU immigration will have next-to-no effect on the number of immigrants in Britain.