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Court case involving Albion players - the (new) only thread allowed - ALL found NOT GUILTY
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It goes to penalties
nwgull
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The jury has asked to see Ben Sampayo's original statement. Probably means that they're still unsure and won't come to a verdict today.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10439812.Jury_ask_for_more_evidence_at_Albion_players_sex_trial/
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10439812.Jury_ask_for_more_evidence_at_Albion_players_sex_trial/
Didn't the jury in the original trial also ask for that?
Postman Pat
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Yep! This is from the first trial:
The jury has asked for two points to be clarified.
Firstly the definition of what it means "to be sure".
Secondly they asked for clarification of the evidence of Ben Sampayo.
Judge Charles Wide told them: "Sure is an ordinary English word in everyday use.
"Sure doesn't mean scienfific or absolute certainty, it means being satisfied so that you are sure."
He went on to deal with the question of Ben Sampayo's evidence.
He said: "On the basis of Ben Sampayo's evidence you will not be able to reach the sure conclusion that the penis of any of the defendants was ever in the claimant's hand."
Jude Wide said they could not have a copy of Mr Sampayo's witness statement or a transcript of his police interview because it had not been produced in evidence.
One4the.road
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- Jan 10, 2011
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Lua Lua named in the on going sex case
Page 12 Argus today
Page 12 Argus today
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
His other court case has been abandoned, so he can now be named in this one.
He is the 'mystery phone breaker', who we all knew about before but couldn't talk about.
Also, as mentioned in the article, he was the player threatening to distribute the alleged photos, and put the alleged video on youtube.
Publius Ovidius
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Seems like a nice lad
KZNSeagull
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Doesn't he just.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
So, why hasn't he been asked to give evidence, if he's apparently seen the photo / video and seemingly had a copy of them?
brightn'ove
cringe
Court case involving Albion players - the (new) only thread allowed
For those of us not in Sussex??
For those of us not in Sussex??
Ah, the unnamed man was Kaz.
Not all of us, I managed to completely avoid finding out
Nathan
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- Jan 8, 2010
- 3,780
DanielT
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edit: the link is above
I've not been following the case as diligently as others, so forgive me if I'm being slow here.
That Argus report seems to tie up all the loose ends and makes sense of the whole situation.
That Argus report seems to tie up all the loose ends and makes sense of the whole situation.
Seagull over Canaryland
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I appreciate that no one has been convicted but this latest aspect about KLL's other court case being dropped meaning that he can now be identified in this case just adds to the feeling that many 'professional' footballers are out of touch with how to conduct themselves in life. Certainly it adds to the unsavory publicity that is going on around The Albion and hardly engenders the reputation of a model Club where everything is 'right' and for the wider public to recognise its positive role in the 'community'.
It is no wonder that management are obliged to deal with disciplinary matters formally. Yet some punters suggest that we are being heavy handed.
Looking at the wider picture I don't blame Di Canio for taking a hard line with his players. Ok the manner in which he publicly named and shamed them was not necessary. Although Bardsley (numpty) did a good hatchet job on himself. I know it's the PFA's job to stand up for their members but it would be good to see them taking a more constructive stance.
I hope we appoint a manager with flair but also one who is willing to rule with a firm hand and that a code of conduct is there to be adhered to. It cannot help your promotion prospects if players heads are distracted by legal cases hanging over them throughout a season. Plus it must tarnish the commercial reputation of sponsors associated with a Club where its employees are regularly in the news for the wrong reasons.
I am sure that Tony Bloom will be desperately keen for us to enter the next season with no off field distractions and then keep it that way.
It is no wonder that management are obliged to deal with disciplinary matters formally. Yet some punters suggest that we are being heavy handed.
Looking at the wider picture I don't blame Di Canio for taking a hard line with his players. Ok the manner in which he publicly named and shamed them was not necessary. Although Bardsley (numpty) did a good hatchet job on himself. I know it's the PFA's job to stand up for their members but it would be good to see them taking a more constructive stance.
I hope we appoint a manager with flair but also one who is willing to rule with a firm hand and that a code of conduct is there to be adhered to. It cannot help your promotion prospects if players heads are distracted by legal cases hanging over them throughout a season. Plus it must tarnish the commercial reputation of sponsors associated with a Club where its employees are regularly in the news for the wrong reasons.
I am sure that Tony Bloom will be desperately keen for us to enter the next season with no off field distractions and then keep it that way.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Lua Lua really sounds like an utter c unit doesn't he, complete attention seeking drama queen.
More than ever I hope we employ a humble man that can control his players and if they cause any unecessary sh*t off the pitch then they're out. What a farce.
I know it's an aspect of getting players on higher wages and therefore higher egos, and also an aspect of not being poor little brighton anymore, but under Poyet our club name has been dragged through the mud constantly and much of the good will we recieved during our years of struggle has long since dissipated.
More than ever I hope we employ a humble man that can control his players and if they cause any unecessary sh*t off the pitch then they're out. What a farce.
I know it's an aspect of getting players on higher wages and therefore higher egos, and also an aspect of not being poor little brighton anymore, but under Poyet our club name has been dragged through the mud constantly and much of the good will we recieved during our years of struggle has long since dissipated.
Postman Pat
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It was agreed in the Old Bailey yesterday by Judge Christopher Moss that a contempt of court order could be lifted allowing the naming of Lualua once the risk of prejudicing his Newcastle case was removed.
Monkey Man
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Young footballers have several things in excess: money, testosterone, and time. Many of them have been "apart" from us "normals" from a young age. They've needed an enlarged ego to get where they've got. They get a regular fix of crowd adulation. Their role models are often exceptionally rich and often exceptionally arrogant.
None of which excuses any unpleasant or criminal behaviour that results. But these lads don't half get a weird introduction to adult life.
None of which excuses any unpleasant or criminal behaviour that results. But these lads don't half get a weird introduction to adult life.
Twinkle Toes
Growing old disgracefully
'Can't argue with any of that, Beepsta. The off-field antics of a number of our professionals has evidently been anything but in recent times - & it's clear to me that some characters need to face up to their responsibilities. Goodness knows if the impending change of management will provide them with the necessary discipline, but we live in hope.