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Couldn't that be mitigated with a large signing on fee?
indeed it could
Couldn't that be mitigated with a large signing on fee?
Ulloa and Obika.
Yes one is on loan.
But really we need a 3rd when we only play one up top ?
Wickham is better than Obika.
It's the Arsenal syndrome. Arsenal didn't NEED another midfielder, but they signed Ozil because he was better than what they had.
We don't NEED another striker in terms of physical bodies....but Wickham is an improvement and has been playing and knows this league. He would hit the ground running and could be the edge we need to make the playoffs.
I would happily take a LITTLE bit less for Liam and have Wickham here. Sure, it may not work and you wish after you took the extra £300k or whatever we haggled over....or we could end up in the prem.
and Leo.
and Leo.
From the Peterlee Star:
SUNDERLAND are set a land a central midfielder before the transfer window closes – either Liam Bridcutt OR Ever Banega, but not both.
And it emerged Connor Wickham could be the key to Gus Poyet getting the man he wants.
Poyet has already added three new players to his squad this January – on loan Fiorentina full-back Marcos Alonso, and Argentinian duo Oscar Ustari and Santiago Vergini.
Now he is closing in on a fourth – another Argentinian, Internacionale’s versatile attacker Ignaciio Scocco in a £4million deal.
And he plans more arrivals before the window closes with Bridcutt and Banega firmly on his radar.
But the Black Cats’ boss is looking to strengthen specifically, rather than recruit a job lot of players, and intends to bring in only one central midfielder before the transfer window closes in little more than 72 hours time.
His first choice is Bridcutt, who Poyet worked closely with in his time as Brighton boss, and he believes the 24-year-old would fit perfectly into the style of play he wants to develop at Sunderland.
A firm bid, in excess of £2million, has been made by Sunderland though that was rejected by Brighton.
Brighton are determined to get more than the money offered so far from Sunderland – pointing out that Poyet himself described Bridcutt as “a £5million player” during his time at the Amex Stadium.
However, there could be a compromise in the form of Wickham going out on loan to the south coast club as a makeweight in the deal.
Brighton are on the lookout for a striker to reinforce their options up front as they look to maintain a push for the play-offs.
And the Seagulls might be tempted to take Sunderland’s offer for the midfielder if it means getting a proven Championship finisher in Wickham as part of the deal.
The England Under-21 ace – scorer of eight goals in 12 league games during his time on loan at Sheffield Wednesday – could be loaned out to Brighton until the end of the season.
Wickham was recalled by Sunderland yesterday, two days before his loan at the Owls was due to end – and before he was due to play for them against Millwall tonight.
That indicates Poyet has a plan for the 20-year-old, and it could be that he is used as bait to tempt Brighton to sell Bridcutt.
The Wearsiders however are determined not to be held to ransom and have opened up inquiries on another front, over Valencia midfielder Banega.
The Argentine has two dozen international caps under his belt and the 25-year-old would not come cheap.
But he suffered several injuries while at the Spanish club and they may be tempted to cash in on a player they paid Boca Juniors somewhere in the region of £16 million for five and a half years ago.
The Argentine has been watched by a number of Premier League clubs but Sunderland are prepared to up their interest if no progress is made on the Bridcutt transfer.
Looks like a loan for Wickham then.
"The Wearsiders however are determined not to be held to ransom"??!! Cheeky Get.
We're looking for a fair price and as the article just stated Poyet himself said Bridders was £5 mill player.
Initially i was against the idea of doing any business with Sunderland because of Poyet and I love Bridders.
But I'm starting to warm to the idea, Wickham is class and we have a very excellent and improving Ince.
I'll be sad to see Buckley go but he hardly plays. Shame that it looks like Wickham will only be loan.
if Wickham comes on loan he will hardly kick a ball in my opinion.
Dropping Ulloa for him is just suicidal.
We will end up with an unhappy striker in Ulloa and have 2 loaners who will go back to there parent clubs at the end of the season.
Leaving us with Macca as our only striker, who wont have played football in 12 months.
and Leo.
Obika goes back at the start of April, a number of matches before the end of the season.
Unless its a permenant deal for Wickham I really dont see the point.
We already have 2 strikers that play the exact same role that he does. Why would we need a 3rd !?
He cant play either side of Ulloa. And before anyone says it, we wont play 2 up top.
Unless its a permenant deal for Wickham I really dont see the point.
We already have 2 strikers that play the exact same role that he does. Why would we need a 3rd !?
He cant play either side of Ulloa. And before anyone says it, we wont play 2 up top.
Either way unless we are looking to get rid of Ulloa.... which i cant believe we are, its asking for trouble to bring in another loaner and drop Ulloa
Who bar a couple of average games recently has been magnificent for us.
We need a front man that can play anywhere in a front 3, much like Grabban would have offered us, and want Barnes did.
Agreed. A loan deal in return for Bridcutt is a strange compromise. If Buckley is part of the deal it would be even stranger. Maybe we are not prepared to blow most of the fees we would get for them and/or pay Wickham his Prem level wages. Maybe The Albion are happy with a short term loan of Wickham until we get Buckley, CMS and Hoskins fit.....?
But allowing Gus to give us the run around and determine the outcome of our own transfer window seems unlikely. If Gus suddenly cools his interest in Bridcutt then Wickham becomes irrelevant. It would be simpler to just get Conway back on loan who is at least a known quantity and would blend straight back into the team.
It would be interesting to see Wickham play for us, but among all the discussions on here there is no mention how Wickham would feel about joining us? I'd like to think he would be positive but what if he isn't impressed or motivated at being moved on again? I'm concerned he already has a series of loans behind him and hasn't exactly established himself long term. Maybe Oscar can take him to the next level.
Maybe things could move quicker if another Club comes sniffing around Bridcutt........
Wickham might not quite be up to Ulloa's level of ability yet, but over time he will surpass it. Future England player possibly.
Would be our best signing since Zamora, really hoping this happens.