Congratulations to Karen Murphy (Premier League loses latest battle)

[clippedgull]

A pub landlady has won her court fight with the English Premier League over using a Greek TV decoder to screen games.

Karen Murphy has paid nearly £8,000 in fines and costs for using the cheaper decoder in her Portsmouth pub to bypass controls over match screening.

But she took her case to the European Court of Justice (ECJ).

It found partly in her favour, and now the High Court in London has also found in her favour.

Ms Murphy has spent six years fighting a prosecution for showing live football at the Red White and Blue pub without a Sky subscription.

 

[Albion Dan]

And the Sky bubble finally caves in....... Thats it pretty much for Pubs paying their extortionate fees surely?

 

[fly high]

Brilliant.

 

[Driver8]

And the Sky bubble finally caves in....... Thats it pretty much for Pubs paying their extortionate fees surely?

Can a bubble cave in?

 

[Fef]

Hopefully the beginning of the end of geographic discrimination.

 

[southdownswolf]

I bet that there are a quite a few football clubs that do not like that...

Now that pubs can put on other countries channels for Prem football, how will that affect the bidding process next time around? And in turn how will it affect the money going into football clubs from the tv revenue?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I suppose on this occasion something positive has come out of the EU lol.
This has seriously backfired on Sky'. They will either have to drop their prices or risk losing customers to other providers.

So what does this mean to home customers? I have freesat but cannot afford SKY. I wonder if foreign providers will be able to offer the same Sports packages as SKY at a reduced rate?

 

[Paskman]

Now where can I get a Greek decoder from? They must be going cheap over there...........................

 

[halbpro]

The interesting point is whether or not she's won. Given that showing any Premier League opening videos, logos, graphics etc... was ruled to be illegal without paying the correct broadcaster for the territory. Surely if the Premier League just watermarked the video feed in the corner or something it would be a breach? Seems like a simple work around for the Premier League?

 

[pseudonym]

I bet that there are a quite a few football clubs that do not like that...

Now that pubs can put on other countries channels for Prem football, how will that affect the bidding process next time around? And in turn how will it affect the money going into football clubs from the tv revenue?

While on a personal note it's a victory for her, but overall it's a hollow victory, sky and prem league are now using legislation about using broadcasting logos, national anthems and pre-recorded footage as copy right infringement, you will never defeat scummy sky.


http://www.satellites.co.uk/articles/501-premier-league-bskyb-start-crackdown-pubs/

 

[Postman Pat]

The interesting point is whether or not she's won. Given that showing any Premier League opening videos, logos, graphics etc... was ruled to be illegal without paying the correct broadcaster for the territory. Surely if the Premier League just watermarked the video feed in the corner or something it would be a breach? Seems like a simple work around for the Premier League?

If it is in the same place everytime a post-it note in the corner of the screen will soon fix that problem!

 

[Hillian1]

Funny that, my local has just lost all its footy from the hooky box. Sky have won a case about the copyright to it's logo on the screens and their commentary.

 

[halbpro]

If it is in the same place everytime a post-it note in the corner of the screen will soon fix that problem!

Ha, how'd I miss such an obvious work around? I'm sure that'd be absolutely fine

 

[shaolinpunk]

The coverage abroad is so much funkier than Sky as well. Take the half times for example. Rather than 15 minutes of adverts and pundits sitting there saying what they thought, there are two minutes of punditry and a load of montages with funky euro dance in the background advertising upcoming games, plus facts about clubs and a focus on a former player for one of the clubs

 

[Driver8]

It would be just our luck to get promoted to the Premier League just as the money dries up!!

 

[leigull]

Surely Sky will just up their price to the foreign market?

 

[Dirk Gently]

The smart money in the industry is on the PL switching to a single, pan-Europe broadcasting deal rather than the current per-territory deals - that might slightly reduce prices but not massively.

But the real threat to them is from internet streaming rather than overseas satellite packages.

 

[Mileoakman]

Surely Sky will just up their price to the foreign market?

According to the Times today the Premier League have decided to stop foreign stations broadcasting live matches at 3pm Saturdays and will only allow them to show live matches if they are also being shown by Sky/ESPN at the same time in this Country. Apparently the clubs will lose some revenue but it will stop the Pubs showing games that haven't been authorised for live viewing in the UK. Looks like nobody wins and we all lose.

 

[The Large One]

Sky won't take this lying down.

There's plenty they can do to ensure their revenue doesn't slip - charging more to the Greek providers, for one.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Sky won't take this lying down.

There's plenty they can do to ensure their revenue doesn't slip - charging more to the Greek providers, for one.

Stuff em. So glad we have a thing called Freesat where you don't have to pay Sky a penny for simple things like HD.