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Bruno now misses two games
- Thread starter AZ Gull
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seagull 1979
Praying for points
Good. Not playing well at the moment, a couple of games rest might do him good.
Gullflyinghigh
Registered User
- Apr 23, 2012
- 4,279
I'm not too sad about this really. He's obviously a good player but he seems to have become too offensively minded for a right-back, to the detriment of our back line.
At least with Calde's forays forward you know he'll be bursting a lung to get back straight after each one.
At least with Calde's forays forward you know he'll be bursting a lung to get back straight after each one.
Kumquat
New member
- Mar 2, 2009
- 4,459
Absolute liabilty is Bruno. Clearly talented but when your game is based around defending because goals are hard to come by, which ours is, he's a ****ing liability. Greer getting involved in that territory obviously makes it doubly worse. I think most have us have worked out over the games Dunk has played that he should start. Upson has been class non stop, so goodbye Greer. But as mystifying as the scotch/scottish journeyman is, it's the mystifying decision to constantly use the bald headed Bruno over tthe consistent Calde that confuses me.
Magic City
New member
- Mar 29, 2014
- 118
Great stats! You're clearly very passionate about Calderon and his lack of inclusion in the starting eleven! Like I was trying to infer, I don't believe that there is much between the two. In fact my original post was intentionally created to praise Calde, as I happen to regard him very highly. However although the stats are in his favour, Bruno has played 10 games more. So over 10 more games he has only dropped 0.05 below Calderon's average point rating. Although incredibly marginal, in my opinion Bruno is a better player.
Not particularly passionate about Calderon more so the fact Bruno does my head in, game after game his total lack of understanding how to defend infuriates me. The one stat I would like to know is how many crosses/shots come in from his side compared to the very good defender Ward's side.
Half of the reason Greer struggles is because he's covering for Bruno on the sideline. Either that or a midfielder is.
Just to add though Calderon has scored 14 goals in his Brighton career to Bruno's 1. Does dismiss his "attacking" mindset somewhat.
brakespear
Doctor Worm
Hopefully Calde's run in the team can extend at least to the Charlton game (my next visit to the Amex and iirc a team he has a couple of goals against). And for every match afterwards too 
JCL666
absurdism
- Sep 23, 2011
- 2,190
I don't get why people are constantly on at Bruno for attacking. As I understand it, that is a typical part of a full backs role within a 433.
The defensive midfielders role includes providing cover in that situation. So if you think about it, when you attack if you include the full backs you can push 7 players forward (3 forwards, 2 midfielders, 2 full backs). This gives the option to overload. That's why when we push on, we rely heavily on a holding midfielder.
It's definitely different to a fullback within a 4-5-1.
There's some interesting (if you like reading about tactics) stuff here http://www.redbullsacademy.com/433.aspx
If you've got 20 minutes check this out http://www.slideboom.com/presentations/61183/AJAX433--Formation-and-Playing-Roles
4-3-3 vs 4-5-1
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1433563-breaking-down-the-4-3-3-formation-when-to-use-it-and-why
The evolution of the fullback as an attacking player
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2009/mar/25/the-question-full-backs-football
Yeah I like Calde too.
The defensive midfielders role includes providing cover in that situation. So if you think about it, when you attack if you include the full backs you can push 7 players forward (3 forwards, 2 midfielders, 2 full backs). This gives the option to overload. That's why when we push on, we rely heavily on a holding midfielder.
It's definitely different to a fullback within a 4-5-1.
There's some interesting (if you like reading about tactics) stuff here http://www.redbullsacademy.com/433.aspx
If you've got 20 minutes check this out http://www.slideboom.com/presentations/61183/AJAX433--Formation-and-Playing-Roles
4-3-3 vs 4-5-1
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1433563-breaking-down-the-4-3-3-formation-when-to-use-it-and-why
The evolution of the fullback as an attacking player
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2009/mar/25/the-question-full-backs-football
Yeah I like Calde too.
Don't think anyone has moaned about him for attacking it's the fact he defends so poorly. His technique or rather lack of it leads to him committing fouls, he fails to track back, close down, stop attackers from coming inside. Add to that Calderon, assists in more goals and scores loads more.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
Couldn't give a toss about the 'stats'. Bruno is class. Plenty of people exercise man love to Calde.
That is all.
That is all.
It's not an uncommon complaint.
Bruno as been one of the best players in the last several home matches so it's staggering how much stick he is getting. But then nsc has to blame one man.
Superphil
Dismember
So, bugger all in it then. Perhaps if Calde wants to start more games he should do better in training or something to get Garcia to pick him. There must be a reason why Bruno starts more than Calde, it certainly can't be statistics that are so marginal. Don't forget in much of the time Bruno has played this season we've had a poor attack line too, strikers who couldn't hit a barn door at 2 paces, and Crofts season ending. That might have something to do with the tiny difference in points too.
Glad he's out tbh. How many of the goals wen have conceded recently have come from attacks down our right or Bruno errors?
Calde in for Bruno is a good thing in that plenty of people have been calling for Bruno to be dropped.
But please, Oscar, will you ditch Keith Andrews? He is GASH, and it's not as if Stephens is a worse alternative. And FFS play Lewis Dunk instead of Greer. I'm not going to slate Greer (he's been poor for a month or two but no more than that) but Dunk is capable, hungry and his job is to provide competition when our first choice centre halves are out of sorts. Let him do his job.
But please, Oscar, will you ditch Keith Andrews? He is GASH, and it's not as if Stephens is a worse alternative. And FFS play Lewis Dunk instead of Greer. I'm not going to slate Greer (he's been poor for a month or two but no more than that) but Dunk is capable, hungry and his job is to provide competition when our first choice centre halves are out of sorts. Let him do his job.
The Brighton Buzz
Falmer here we come
- Jan 31, 2008
- 1,277
Absolutely, but even if he is MOM in both games you can bet your bottom dollar that Bruno will be back for the next game. OG seems to prefer him over Calde. Not sure why.
Because he is a much better footballer.
He *was* class. He makes far too many defensive mistakes to be considered class nowadays, but I guess that is why he no longer plays at the 4th biggest club in La Liga. What I will say is that he is no worse than Calde despite what many people say on here. In an ideal world you'd pick one or the other based on the opposition's strengths and weaknesses, but that comes at a cost of unsettling the back four.
And stats in football are generally a load of shìt. They are rarely meaningful except the obvious stat of which team has scored the most goals. And even then, the difference between Calde and Bruno's stats are not significant so it seems particularly stupid to use them to justify Calde's place in the team.
Bruno is streets ahead of Calderon.
In fact, he is streets ahead of most of the right backs in this country.
If the bloke reads some of the nonsense on here, he must think that half of Brighton have never seen a football match before.
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
Because he's better?
tommynockers
New member
- Dec 6, 2013
- 297
Not true what so ever. He may have good points but is far to inconsistent and is a liability!!!