[Albion] "Brighton want to create a DNA that's recognisable from space"

[A1X]

It's a good plan, and one that other clubs are already trying to imitate. Look up the road: Roy Hodgson's footballing style is certainly visible from the moon.

"It's one small step for man...and one giant leap from Zaha claiming he was tripped."

 

[Braggfan]

Well...

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I was just going to say that. Ferdinand knows all about how Brighton are set up. He might not have played for us, but he definitely has a soft spot for us now.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

It's a good plan, and one that other clubs are already trying to imitate. Look up the road: Roy Hodgson's footballing style is certainly visible from the moon.

Sam Allardyce is having a go too. The ball over the Hawthorns is often near the moon than the pitch.

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's interesting that they talk about Dan Ashworth being key. I believe that Dan Ashworth has been another very good recruit for the club's philosophy, as has Paul Barber and Graham Potter but I believe the philosophy was already in place when they were targeted and recruited. And, just like Gus, Chris H, Graham Potter, etc there will already be plans in place for their replacements, if and when they move on, which hopefully won't be for a good while yet.

They need to look elsewhere for their 'key'

 

[Gazwag]

It's a good plan, and one that other clubs are already trying to imitate. Look up the road: Roy Hodgson's footballing style is certainly visible from the moon.

Newcastle as well - Steve Bruce is visible from the moon

 

[Muzzman]

Newcastle as well - Steve Bruce is visible from the moon

That's no surprise when you're as big as The Great Wall of China.

 

[Mellotron]

Jake Humphreys: ‘Brighton football club’

I've really noticed recently that he's a bit of a tit. I get the sense that none of the old pros like him at all.

 

[Wozza]

I've really noticed recently that he's a bit of a tit. I get the sense that none of the old pros like him at all.

He did a really cringe thumbs up to the Norwich backroom staff on the show last night.

 

[Change at Barnham]

It's a good plan, and one that other clubs are already trying to imitate. Look up the road: Roy Hodgson's footballing style is certainly visible from the moon.

And wait until Palace's new stand is built.
They'll be able to spot both the Great Wall of China and the new stand from the moon.

 

[Farehamseagull]

I've really noticed recently that he's a bit of a tit. I get the sense that none of the old pros like him at all.

Like the dreadful Darren Fletcher on the commentary for BT, he just tries far too hard to be one of the lads. It's excruciating at times.

How he must still regret his Norwich/Brighton tweet too!

 

[The Albion Roar]

Its funny, because Roy Hodgson probably influenced GP a little bit. I mean, he was in Sweden for seven years or something and must have picked something up... and as sad as it sounds, Roy Hodgson was the one who shaped Swedish football: extremely organised, everyone knowing what to do in every situation and "playbook" moves. When Hodgson coached Malmö FF, the players often spent whole training sessions practising one single move, for example right back playing it long to centre forward 1 who headed it to right winger, cross, and then attempt on goal from forward 2. Its how Sweden went to the Euro semis in 92, got the bronze in WC 94, its how Lars Lagerbäck made Iceland beat England. It was the dominant way of playing in Allsvenskan for about 40 years... until recently, when everyone is trying to play Potterball (which is just really a slightly more structured kind of Totaalvoetbal).

English coaches doing well in Sweden a reasonably well-trodden path. Hodgson himself probably learned from Bob Houghton, the English coach who took the only Swedish team to a European club final - Malmö in 1979. Before that was the legend that was George Raynor. He left Aldershot to coach Sweden to 1948 Olympic Gold, and Bronze in 1952. He the led them to third place in the 1950 World Cup, and the World Cup Final itself in 1958. After that, he coached at Skegness. Football can be cruel.

The thing with having the same system and ideology going down even to the youngest age groups was something that was first implemented by Johan Cruijff when he came to Barcelona in the 80s and its obviously had massive success throughout the years, until recently when they pretty much killed off their academy to be able to afford big name signings (like Coutinho...). Plenty of other teams have tried to adapt this way of working, but it goes one or two years and the owners become impatient and just wipe out all kind of long term thinking. Brighton should be in a better position to copy Ajax & Barcelona in this sense,

One thing that will make a success of Potter's style is improvement - either with the current squad, or through acquisition - of the quality of players. Rinus Michels, the manager of the Netherlands 1974 World Cup squad maintained you needed '6 or 7 player World-Class players' to play that style of 'Total Football'.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

"It's one small step for man...and one giant leap from Zaha claiming he was tripped."

“The Eagle has Landed”.....on the floor yet again.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Its funny, because Roy Hodgson probably influenced GP a little bit. I mean, he was in Sweden for seven years or something and must have picked something up... and as sad as it sounds, Roy Hodgson was the one who shaped Swedish football: extremely organised, everyone knowing what to do in every situation and "playbook" moves. When Hodgson coached Malmö FF, the players often spent whole training sessions practising one single move, for example right back playing it long to centre forward 1 who headed it to right winger, cross, and then attempt on goal from forward 2. Its how Sweden went to the Euro semis in 92, got the bronze in WC 94, its how Lars Lagerbäck made Iceland beat England. It was the dominant way of playing in Allsvenskan for about 40 years... until recently, when everyone is trying to play Potterball (which is just really a slightly more structured kind of Totaalvoetbal).

The thing with having the same system and ideology going down even to the youngest age groups was something that was first implemented by Johan Cruijff when he came to Barcelona in the 80s and its obviously had massive success throughout the years, until recently when they pretty much killed off their academy to be able to afford big name signings (like Coutinho...). Plenty of other teams have tried to adapt this way of working, but it goes one or two years and the owners become impatient and just wipe out all kind of long term thinking. Brighton should be in a better position to copy Ajax & Barcelona in this sense,

Agreed. Hodgson is a well respected coach. Don't forget, he also took Switzerland to their first major tournament in decades for Euro 96, where they came close to beating England too.

 

[PTC Gull]

“Houston, we have a problem.”

You called?

 

[studio150]

An interesting listen.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Its funny, because Roy Hodgson probably influenced GP a little bit. I mean, he was in Sweden for seven years or something and must have picked something up... and as sad as it sounds, Roy Hodgson was the one who shaped Swedish football: extremely organised, everyone knowing what to do in every situation and "playbook" moves. When Hodgson coached Malmö FF, the players often spent whole training sessions practising one single move, for example right back playing it long to centre forward 1 who headed it to right winger, cross, and then attempt on goal from forward 2. Its how Sweden went to the Euro semis in 92, got the bronze in WC 94, its how Lars Lagerbäck made Iceland beat England. It was the dominant way of playing in Allsvenskan for about 40 years... until recently, when everyone is trying to play Potterball (which is just really a slightly more structured kind of Totaalvoetbal).

The thing with having the same system and ideology going down even to the youngest age groups was something that was first implemented by Johan Cruijff when he came to Barcelona in the 80s and its obviously had massive success throughout the years, until recently when they pretty much killed off their academy to be able to afford big name signings (like Coutinho...). Plenty of other teams have tried to adapt this way of working, but it goes one or two years and the owners become impatient and just wipe out all kind of long term thinking. Brighton should be in a better position to copy Ajax & Barcelona in this sense,

Potter said before the last Palace game that Hodgson was 'revered' in Sweden but I don't think he has ever acknowledged any influence - although that's not to say that there isn't any, of course.

Then there's this: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/...all-managers-halmstad-malmo-ostersunds-374904

 

[Swansman]

English coaches doing well in Sweden a reasonably well-trodden path. Hodgson himself probably learned from Bob Houghton, the English coach who took the only Swedish team to a European club final - Malmö in 1979. Before that was the legend that was George Raynor. He left Aldershot to coach Sweden to 1948 Olympic Gold, and Bronze in 1952. He the led them to third place in the 1950 World Cup, and the World Cup Final itself in 1958. After that, he coached at Skegness. Football can be cruel.

Yes. Been a couple of successful ones... some mixed feelings about them. There's Bob Houghton and Roy Hodgson and then there's Stuart Baxter, who in 1998 won the league with AIK despite scoring the least number of goals in the league (25 in 26 games)... probably pretty unique. Also did well with them in the Champions League the year after that and suited their "38 000 hooligans" image quite well with his hot, uncontrollable temper. Got sacked from his club in India last week for saying "You need to get raped or rape someone before there's a penalty".

Potter said before the last Palace game that Hodgson was 'revered' in Sweden but I don't think he has ever acknowledged any influence - although that's not to say that there isn't any, of course.

Then there's this: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/...all-managers-halmstad-malmo-ostersunds-374904

In a sense revered... attendances dropped like a rock (somewhere around 50%) with Hodgsons "new football" though , and didnt recuperate until about 20 years later.

 

[AZ Gull]

Yes. Been a couple of successful ones... some mixed feelings about them. There's Bob Houghton and Roy Hodgson and then there's Stuart Baxter, who in 1998 won the league with AIK despite scoring the least number of goals in the league (25 in 26 games)... probably pretty unique. Also did well with them in the Champions League the year after that and suited their "38 000 hooligans" image quite well with his hot, uncontrollable temper. Got sacked from his club in India last week for saying "You need to get raped or rape someone before there's a penalty".



In a sense revered... attendances dropped like a rock (somewhere around 50%) with Hodgsons "new football" though , and didnt recuperate until about 20 years later.

He is also Percy Tau's former national team manager.

 

[Uter]

For further reading/listening on the Brighton philosophy see link below:

https://trainingground.guru/articles/dan-ashworth-inside-the-mind-of-a-technical-director

Dan Ashworth talks about Brighton's DNA from 6:33 to 11:50 in this podcast.

 

[Albion Dan]

Makes you wonder how many managers we’re looking at down the line

Makes a mockery of the “who could do a better job” question that always gets asked whenever anyone questions the manager. Of course the club has a list of candidates.