[Politics] Brexit

[Westdene Seagull]

Well last month they were neck and neck, the trend is Ford is still losing share and VW is gaining. I'm a bad car buyer, 2001 Golf with 250k and still going strong

It's utterly ridiculous to use one months figures to suggest a trend. Otherwise you might as well suggest Lotus are outperforming everyone else with a 120% increase !

 

[BigGully]

I could not be arsed to decipher the rest of your mangled English. Come back when you have had someone check it.

Oh yes you could, Wolfie just feeling a bit punch drunk eh ....

 

[beorhthelm]

But according to you we're staying in The EEA and everything that entails, so what's Theresa May's problem with Freedom of Movement?

i dont think May has a problem with freedom of movement, some brexiteers do on matter of principle (because its a core sovereignty issue, determining who is, isn't a citizen and rights they entail). it was covered in the joint report, there would be continuation of rights for resident citizens upto the date of withdrawal. we haven't got to the date of withdrawal yet, its to be negotiated as part of the transition period. Barnier thought its was a good idea to highlight this means citizens rights continue through that period, which ruffled the brexiteers. you tell me why he thought it needed to be brought up.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Oh yes you could, Wolfie just feeling a bit punch drunk eh ....

Using HT and his gangs theory earlier in this thread he must have a hangover !

 

[ManOfSussex]

i dont think May has a problem with freedom of movement, some brexiteers do on matter of principle (because its a core sovereignty issue, determining who is, isn't a citizen and rights they entail). it was covered in the joint report, there would be continuation of rights for resident citizens upto the date of withdrawal. we haven't got to the date of withdrawal yet, its to be negotiated as part of the transition period. Barnier thought its was a good idea to highlight this means citizens rights continue through that period, which ruffled the brexiteers. you tell me why he thought it needed to be brought up.

But the date of withdrawal is in the thread title - The other Brexiteers on this thread have stated that's set in stone and will happen, so obviously it will. The EU27 have stated that the transitional period will mean following all Single Market rules, including FOM, as part of it's negotiation demands, despite Brandon Lewis among others already stating months back it would end in March 2019. It always seemed rather obvious to me any transitional deal would involve adhering to The EU status quo during that time, though that's up for negotiation too apparently according to the other Brexiteers on this thread who, unlike you for some reason, don't think we'll be staying in the EEA.

But as according to you we are, so what's the fuss on either side as FOM and ECJ jurisdiction will be continuing in the future anyway. In that case Barnier is just stating the bleedin' obvious. I suspect Jacob Rees-Mogg may have other ideas though contrary to this........................

 

[CHAPPERS]

But the date of withdrawal is in the thread title - The other Brexiteers on this thread have stated that's set in stone and will happen, so obviously it will. The EU27 have stated that the transitional period will mean following all Single Market rules, including FOM, as part of it's negotiation demands, despite Brandon Lewis among others already stating months back it would end in March 2019. It always seemed rather obvious to me any transitional deal would involve adhering to The EU status quo during that time, though that's up for negotiation too apparently according to the other Brexiteers on this thread who, unlike you for some reason, don't think we'll be staying in the EEA.

But as according to you we are, so what's the fuss on either side as FOM and ECJ jurisdiction will be continuing in the future anyway. In that case Barnier is just stating the bleedin' obvious. I suspect Jacob Rees-Mogg may have other ideas though contrary to this........................

Interesting reading that EU based Brits aren't exactly pleased with what May has been coming out with recently regarding FOM.

 

[nicko31]

But the date of withdrawal is in the thread title - The other Brexiteers on this thread have stated that's set in stone and will happen, so obviously it will. The EU27 have stated that the transitional period will mean following all Single Market rules, including FOM, as part of it's negotiation demands, despite Brandon Lewis among others already stating months back it would end in March 2019. It always seemed rather obvious to me any transitional deal would involve adhering to The EU status quo during that time, though that's up for negotiation too apparently according to the other Brexiteers on this thread who, unlike you for some reason, don't think we'll be staying in the EEA.

But as according to you we are, so what's the fuss on either side as FOM and ECJ jurisdiction will be continuing in the future anyway. In that case Barnier is just stating the bleedin' obvious. I suspect Jacob Rees-Mogg may have other ideas though contrary to this........................

Meanwhile before we go the transition December's little agreement need to be made legally binding

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

What a bunch of straw clutching deluded Grizzlers, still waiting on lord haw haw to explain what he finds difficult in the word leave ,the word that the referendum vote was for
regards
DR

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Very funny. An open trade deal with China. May & her flunkies are desperately groveling for second rate scraps. The UK is already a dumping ground for poor quality Chinese tat & patent knock off goods. That's inside the godam customs union! The UK have their backs against the wall and other countries know this. They will get royally screwed over in any negotiations to come.

Maybe Mayhem will offer some of Leadsoms innovative jam as part of any deal?

Almost feel sorry for the Little Eurolanders stuck behind their protectionist wall. Obsessed with their doomed political project.

Fortunately the patriotic, democracy-loving Brexiteers have a broader outward-looking vision. Maintaining good trade links with our European friends and their declining club while having the freedom to forge our own deals with the fastest growing economies around the world. Global Britain

 

[Two Professors]

It's utterly ridiculous to use one months figures to suggest a trend. Otherwise you might as well suggest Lotus are outperforming everyone else with a 120% increase !

And Caterham!

 

[Titanic]

It's utterly ridiculous!

You can say that again.

 

[Two Professors]

Almost feel sorry for the Little Eurolanders stuck behind their protectionist wall. Obsessed with their doomed political project.

Fortunately the patriotic, democracy-loving Brexiteers have a broader outward-looking vision. Maintaining good trade links with our European friends and their declining club while having the freedom to forge our own deals with the fastest growing economies around the world. Global Britain

Marvellous post.Thank God we are leaving the ever-declining EU,and joining the ever-expanding global economies.

 

[Titanic]

Almost feel sorry for the Little Eurolanders stuck behind their protectionist wall. Obsessed with their doomed political project.

Fortunately the patriotic, democracy-loving Brexiteers have a broader outward-looking vision. Maintaining good trade links with our European friends and their declining club while having the freedom to forge our own deals with the fastest growing economies around the world. Global Britain

Bind yourself to the economic retards of the world.... or enjoy the full opportunities for healthy long term growth?

 

[ManOfSussex]

That's right - dismiss as experts if any data or forecast shows as being negative about the Brexit ideological project vs grasp the straw with both hands if aforementioned experts are showing anything as perceived positive.

 

[Titanic]

That's right - dismiss as experts if any data or forecast shows as negative about the Brexit ideological project vs grasp the straw with both hands if aforementioned experts are showing anything as perceived positive.

Then repeat.

or simply fail to engage in any sensible discussion about the facts and repeat your feeble Tory-hating mantras and cream yourself in the echo chambers of the loony left.

Then repeat.

(p.s. those inconvenient truths are published by the IMF)

 

[ManOfSussex]

or simply fail to engage in any sensible discussion about the facts and repeat your feeble Tory-hating mantras and cream yourself in the echo chambers of the loony left.

Then repeat.

Discussion about facts that you dismiss as just #fakenews or #experts or whatever else you do to spin them away? Please.

As for for creaming yourself in an echo chamber - I think you're quite adroit at that with yours and your chums Guido Fawkes blog site fetish.

 

[Baldseagull]

Tarriffs work both ways though,balancing out the heavy discounting would be easy.

State subsidised industry? Tories are not big fans of that, but you might be right.

 

[ManOfSussex]

(p.s. those inconvenient truths are published by the IMF)

The IMF? Remind me what they said pre-referendum, because you like to go on about that and dismiss those and other forecasts etc as #experts and #projectfear.

 

[beorhthelm]

But the date of withdrawal is in the thread title - The other Brexiteers on this thread have stated that's set in stone and will happen, so obviously it will. The EU27 have stated that the transitional period will mean following all Single Market rules, including FOM, as part of it's negotiation demands, despite Brandon Lewis among others already stating months back it would end in March 2019. It always seemed rather obvious to me any transitional deal would involve adhering to The EU status quo during that time, though that's up for negotiation too apparently according to the other Brexiteers on this thread who, unlike you for some reason, don't think we'll be staying in the EEA.

But as according to you we are, so what's the fuss on either side as FOM and ECJ jurisdiction will be continuing in the future anyway. In that case Barnier is just stating the bleedin' obvious. I suspect Jacob Rees-Mogg may have other ideas though contrary to this........................

i forgot we cant have grown up discussion here, so i leave you to it

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Marvellous post.Thank God we are leaving the ever-declining EU,and joining the ever-expanding global economies.

Bind yourself to the economic retards of the world.... or enjoy the full opportunities for healthy long term growth?

The futures bright .. the futures Red, White and Blue.