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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,194
Gods country fortnightly
The hypocrisy over Brexit impact reports continues.

Davis claimed yesterday "there are not a series of discrete impact assessments arising out of our analysis of the 58 sectors”

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Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
What is Davis trying to hide ?

The people should be told.

Perhaps he now has to go ?
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,194
Gods country fortnightly
What is Davis trying to hide ?

The people should be told.

Perhaps he now has to go ?

Right now the MP's aren't even being told. All the crap about it undermining negotiations is BS and he knows it, its the fear that project fear wasn't project fear, it was project reality.

The Brextremists are playing a high stakes game with all their chips on extreme Brexit, if they are not careful they could end up with no Brexit at all.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,009
Priti Patel
My views on money are pretty clear, I don’t like spending money so I would have told the EU in particular to sod off with their excessive financial demands.

Seems like she attacked May last night pretty savagely.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,825
Crawley
http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2013/june/tradoc_151381.pdf

No. After all, it is pretty much in line with the EU's own factsheet on 'Transparency in EU trade negotiations'.

“A certain level of confidentiality is necessary to protect EU interests and to keep chances for a satisfactory outcome high. When entering into a game, no-one starts by revealing his entire strategy to his counterpart from the outset: this is also the case for the EU.”

The Brexit committee should have had the full disclosure, then in concert with Davis, redacted the parts seen as too sensitive at this time.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,822
The hypocrisy over Brexit impact reports continues.

Davis claimed yesterday "there are not a series of discrete impact assessments arising out of our analysis of the 58 sectors”

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we did this a couple of weeks ago, its a deliberate mis-quoting of what he wrote, and people not understanding words. it such a shame there is so little construtive discussion, instead adopt tabliod methods of reporting, boil it down to a meme and stir up the outrage.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,194
Gods country fortnightly
Priti Patel

Seems like she attacked May last night pretty savagely.

Think she should just resign as an MP and get a job as a columnist at the Mail. She makes Jacob Rees seem like a reasonable bloke
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Maybe you wouldn't have opened yourself up for ridicule if you had chosen a vote that the UK actually disagreed with.

Perhaps if you read the UK news you would have realised that 'Roundup' was a major item yesterday.Where do you live,Germany,Japan?
Perhaps your site name of One Love refers to the excessive use of ************ which has softened your brain.Troll.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Probably about right bearing in mind how many Brits voted out.

A lot more than voted in,you dope!That's why we are leaving:lolol:
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
The Brexit committee should have had the full disclosure, then in concert with Davis, redacted the parts seen as too sensitive at this time.

Too many people leaking things to Brussels,and the papers to do that.Some still hoping for an EU pension!
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,041
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Right now the MP's aren't even being told. All the crap about it undermining negotiations is BS and he knows it, its the fear that project fear wasn't project fear, it was project reality.

The Brextremists are playing a high stakes game with all their chips on extreme Brexit, if they are not careful they could end up with no Brexit at all.

I just saw that Craig Mackinlay MP, currently on bail, was wheeled out on the radio earlier to defend the Governments stance on these papers. :lolol:
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,822
The Brexit committee should have had the full disclosure, then in concert with Davis, redacted the parts seen as too sensitive at this time.

agree, redacting parts for the committee isnt helpful. if they couldnt promise to not leak it, well that would look bad on them alas it seems no one trust anyone in politics anymore (though the brexit office and the EU have been remarkably unleaky).
 


Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,694
West Sussex
The Brexit committee should have had the full disclosure, then in concert with Davis, redacted the parts seen as too sensitive at this time.

Like they can be trusted with confidential information... committees like that leak like a sieve, and usually for political points scoring.
 






GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
48,509
Gloucester
Another good news Brexit day...
Yes, do keep quoting the Guardian and the Independent and the BBC, those well-known apologists for remain, if it makes you feel better. We all know you'd love to have referendum after referendum until you get the 'right' result, or find a way to weasel out of Brexit. I look forward to yet another wish list of things you hope to go wrong with the negotuations tomorrow.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,009
Norman Smith- BBC

Is there a missing bombshell in the Brexit documents ?
Almost certainly not. Those in the know tell me they beleive they will probably prove stunningly dull. Infact the most embarrassing thing may just be how flimsy these reports are and how thin the details are about differnet sections of the conomy. Because 850 pages to cover 85% of the British economy is quite an achievement. A couple of paragraphs for the fruit growing sector ? Some bland generalisatins for the fishing industry ? Lawyers at a straightfoward drink driivng court case wd porbably have bigger legal briefs.
Howeverr I'm told David Davis first mentioned he had these 58 impact assessment reports when he was under pressure for not doing his homework. Remember that photo of him turning up for Brexit talks with nothing more than smile on his face ? Well it seems in an effort to show how thorough he was really being , he volunteered the information that he had in fact commissioned these reports into 58 separate areas of the economy.
Sounded impressive at the time.
But now the real political embarrassment may not be what they say (no suprise surely if they show large sections of British industry want to stay in the single market). The real embarrassment may be on how little work has actually been done on the likely impact of brexit on the UK economy.
** Oh...and by the way...the documents haven't been re-dacted or edited. The committee just haven't been given all of them

Urgent question at 12:30 for David Davis to explain himself.
 








Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Strong and stable-the Irish Deputy PM,Frances Fitzgerald has resigned.:facepalm::lolol:
 


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