Bloom speaks...

[Machiavelli]

Bloom says "main". I capatalized it because I was quite surprised when I heard it.

I've just listened to the version on the club website. He actually says: "one of Oscar's main targets" which, once again, fits in (but doesn't necessarily mean) with the view from the Oscar camp that he was on his list, but at the bottom of it.
One other thing: the version on Seagulls Player is 12 min 44 secs, whereas the BBC interview was 17 min 9 secs; anyone any idea of what's cut on the Player version?

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

I've just listened to the version on the club website. He actually says: "one of Oscar's main targets" which, once again, fits in (but doesn't necessarily mean) with the view from the Oscar camp that he was on his list, but at the bottom of it.
One other thing: the version on Seagulls Player is 12 min 44 secs, whereas the BBC interview was 17 min 9 secs; anyone any idea of what's cut on the Player version?

The truth?

 

[Machiavelli]

Still find it hard to grasp why we made such appointment in the first place,that and the appointment of Jones,perhaps Tony only knows why,but for me it all seems as if the appointments were made with an element of control from the senior management at the club.

Why? This is quite easily dealt with: it was intended to be a long-term appointment; Oscar's English would be improving, and his knowledge of English football and the Championship would be improving, by the time of his second year, precisely when the new training ground was up-and-running. This is really what's disappointing about Oscar's departure.

 

[TSB]

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(Nope - already ruled it out as too obvious )

Curse you.

 

[Miffy]

Why is everyone assuming there was some big bust up/friction with the board? Sounds to me like we took a little bit of a gamble on OG in the hope that the promise he shows would pay off. We were happy to give him time to make that happen. He was happy to take a bit of a gamble with us too but was excited at the challenge. Then we got hit by injuries, the Gus situation still rumbling away in the background and the disruption with Bridcutt, all of which were unforeseen, and the job started to look less appealing.

TB has basically said that yes the info from the Argos is factually correct but it doesn't tell the whole story and is a bit unfair on the club as OG had a part in why things went like that too. Despite things being difficult this first year the club were willing to carry in with OG and hoped to persuade him to stick with it but he simply decided it wasn't for him so the club wished him well and move on, although he's clearly disappointed with the way OG announced it to the players without warning and quite rightly feels OG should have handled that a little bit differently.

So the club feel we had a great season under the circumstances, things aren't quite right but let's work together and sort it. And OG feels we had a great season, things aren't quite right but he's not happy here and it's just simply not for him. Seemples.

 

[Miffy]

Curse you.

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Disqualified .. Recently became a football club owner which would rule him out of going into management. Amateur

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Why? This is quite easily dealt with: it was intended to be a long-term appointment; Oscar's English would be improving, and his knowledge of English football and the Championship would be improving, by the time of his second year, precisely when the new training ground was up-and-running. This is really what's disappointing about Oscar's departure.

I'm not convinced and what with jones? strange set up,a coach and an assistant to the coach that the coach perhaps has never heard of? Oscar should have been appointed outright with his own staff and allowed to manage..

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Why is everyone assuming there was some big bust up/friction with the board? Sounds to me like we took a little bit of a gamble on OG in the hope that the promise he shows would pay off. We were happy to give him time to make that happen. He was happy to take a bit of a gamble with us too but was excited at the challenge. Then we got hit by injuries, the Gus situation still rumbling away in the background and the disruption with Bridcutt, all of which were unforeseen, and the job started to look less appealing.

TB has basically said that yes the info from the Argos is factually correct but it doesn't tell the whole story and is a bit unfair on the club as OG had a part in why things went like that too. Despite things being difficult this first year the club were willing to carry in with OG and hoped to persuade him to stick with it but he simply decided it wasn't for him so the club wished him well and move on, although he's clearly disappointed with the way OG announced it to the players without warning and quite rightly feels OG should have handled that a little bit differently.

So the club feel we had a great season under the circumstances, things aren't quite right but let's work together and sort it. And OG feels we had a great season, things aren't quite right but he's not happy here and it's just simply not for him. Seemples.

I'll have to accept that,1st time is an accident,2nd coincidence & if it happens a 3rd time..well that will prove enemy action,so to speak.

 

[TSB]

Disqualified .. Recently became a football club owner which would rule him out of going into management. Amateur

Hmm. Alright then, you force me to resort to:

 

[Miffy]

Curse you.

Although if we are going to go with trump cards I'd hate mine to be wasted ....

 

[RexCathedra]

Sounds to me like we took a little bit of a gamble on OG in the hope that the promise he shows would pay off. We were happy to give him time to make that happen.

Nonsense. People were calling for his head within months, at least on NSC.

 

[Miffy]

Nonsense. People were calling for his head within months, at least on NSC.

When I say we I mean the club as I've decided I speak on their behalf. Or I'm possibly the Queen. I'm not 100% certain which one I am but its DEFINITELY one of them.

 

[symyjym]

When I say we I mean the club as I've decided I speak on their behalf. Or I'm possibly the Queen. I'm not 100% certain which one I am but its DEFINITELY one of them.

If you were the Queen you would have said "one" not "we"

 

[bravohotelalpha]

apparently Oscar didn't communicate much with the players either, for example immediately after a match.

All very strange - I was always really impressed by the way Oscar went on the pitch at the end of every match to shake the hand of each player and then went over to clap/thank the fans ...

 

[Working class pride]

I have not bothered reading the posts but is anyone seriously moaning about a 40 year old who has buiilt a new ground and a training ground whilst also covering a few £million losses? Dont get me wrong, it doesnt seem right that the 9th/10th best supported club in the country cannot compete with the likes and Palace and Wigan in the transfer market, but what can we do?

 

[backson]

He actually said "Yeah that's not true at all" to the suggestion that Oscar had a "BIG" list.
He went on to say that there were a few Oscar targets that we were unable to get.

Sorry, but just listened again, nothing about big was mentioned at all, the suggestion was he had his own list.

 

[ROSM]

Refusing to deal with retained list, not available during key moments, unable to work effectively with senior club executives and wanting to leave just before run in.

Sounds like grounds for misconduct to me.....

 

[TSB]

Sorry, but just listened again, nothing about big was mentioned at all, the suggestion was he had his own list.

You're right. I think it was Bloom saying "he didn't have many at all" that made me think he'd been asked about a big list.
My bad.

 

[Bozza]

One other thing: the version on Seagulls Player is 12 min 44 secs, whereas the BBC interview was 17 min 9 secs; anyone any idea of what's cut on the Player version?

Nothing sinister - the club are running it in two parts. The second bit is tomorrow.

 

[Miffy]

If you were the Queen you would have said "one" not "we"

Thank god for that .. Not over keen on corgis if I'm honest. Or prince Charles.