Arctic ocean thaws..shit!

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

This year has seen the largest melt of sea ice in 30 years..the entire floe will be gone in 3 years or sooner.

Just looked in the shed...all I have is a partially deflated kids rubber ring and a leaky kayak.

On the plus side, Belgium and holland will soon disappear.

 

[beorhthelm]

On the plus side, Belgium and holland will soon disappear.

whys that then? Artic sea ice is already in the water, melting wont increase sea levels.

 

[Rugrat]

Scientists believe anyone north of Preston Circus will be fine as well as having a shorter walk to the beach

 

[Bold Seagull]

whys that then? Artic sea ice is already in the water, melting wont increase sea levels.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/aug/23/arctic-sea-ice-record-low

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

whys that then? Artic sea ice is already in the water, melting wont increase sea levels.

Because as there is less ice on the sea to reflect sunlight back ino the atmosphere then the mean temperature of the region and then the globe will tend to rise...warmer climate means ice on land melts. The sea tends to be quite dark compared to ice..ever worn a black t shirt on a hot day?

Goodbye Amsterdam, Brussels and Norwich.

 

[Bladders]

Well it was quite warm last week

 

[melias shoes]

Scientists believe anyone north of Preston Circus will be fine as well as having a shorter walk to the beach

What if you're already on the beach??

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

What if you're already on the beach??

You won't have to pay for your deck chair?

 

[Bold Seagull]

What if you're already on the beach??

You'll hopefully have scuba diving gear on?

 

[Durlston]

When's the tsunami coming then?

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Looking on the bright side, at least Hove will probably become known as 'The Venice Of The South'. Anybody know where I can nick a Gondola?

 

[melias shoes]

You'll hopefully have scuba diving gear on?

Snorkel and flippers ok??

 

[supaseagull]

HAHAHA......back to school.

Why? He's spot on. The whole"ice melting will cause flooding" is a myth from the 1980's.

The arctic ice cap melting is just a natural cycle. Albeit slightly accelerated by global warming.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Why? He's spot on. The whole"ice melting will cause flooding" is a myth from the 1980's.

The arctic ice cap melting is just a natural cycle. Albeit slightly accelerated by global warming.

Hi Rob!

Not strictly true though you're above statement as they can drill ice cores which identify how long ice has been present, and some of the ice melting now is older and not part of any natural cycle. You can measure both ice cores and sediment cores and build up a picture of natural cycles over thousands of years.

 

[vegster]

I blame the supermarkets and ergo, consumers,for not sourcing renewable ice and taking too much Arctic Ice. When I was a nipper we made our own ice in the freezer in a little tray, we never bought 2 kilo bags of the stuff from Spar.

 

[cirC]

I think I read last week that a severe storm centered over the north pole caused the ice breakup.That should lower the salinity of the area affected and may well help the re-freeze of the area.
No need to worry.

 

[beorhthelm]

Because as there is less ice on the sea to reflect sunlight back ino the atmosphere then the mean temperature of the region and then the globe will tend to rise...warmer climate means ice on land melts. The sea tends to be quite dark compared to ice..ever worn a black t shirt on a hot day?

Goodbye Amsterdam, Brussels and Norwich.

unproven conjecture and technical inaccuracies, though i understand the premise. Amsterdam, Brussels and espiceally Norwich are quite safe (which is higher than London btw).

fact is, artic ice melting on its own doesnt impact Belgium and Holland on its own, only might have long term impact if a series of changes all occur in relation to each other, following models that are guess work, assuming no other effects counter balance those changes.

 

[Seasidesage]

unproven conjecture and technical inaccuracies, though i understand the premise. Amsterdam, Brussels and espiceally Norwich are quite safe (which is higher than London btw).

fact is, artic ice melting on its own doesnt impact Belgium and Holland on its own, only might have long term impact if a series of changes all occur in relation to each other, following models that are guess work, assuming no other effects counter balance those changes.

Shame as I was looking forward to the demise of Norwich

 

[Bold Seagull]

unproven conjecture and technical inaccuracies, though i understand the premise. Amsterdam, Brussels and espiceally Norwich are quite safe (which is higher than London btw).

fact is, artic ice melting on its own doesnt impact Belgium and Holland on its own, only might have long term impact if a series of changes all occur in relation to each other, following models that are guess work, assuming no other effects counter balance those changes.

Models that were guesswork 20 years ago, which now appear to have underestimated the rate of climate change.

All models have to be guesswork based on as much evidence as possible. Of course arctic ice melting rapidly increases the whole temperature of the arctic region given for the most part white snow capped ice regions reflect a huge amount of the suns energy. Take away the reflector and the knock on effect is a lot bigger.

 

[vegster]

ok, joking aside there is a VERY complicated series of interactions going on up there. Its all down to salinity/temperature gradients and the albedo effect of white ice. I would not really want to call it but, even now this could be part of a natural cycle of expansion and contraction.