anyone see the real socialist labour party broadcast

[Publius Ovidius]

ricky tomlinson.


brilliant,

 

[Higham Seagull Army]

I didnt unfortunatly ,just got in anyone got a link ? ...Ricky for prime minister .

 

[Robbie G]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKsdJZB8Q9w

 

[beorhthelm]

brilliant,

must have watched a differnt one to me even as a anti-european, i wouldnt blame energy and rail privatisation, nor banking failures on EU, thought he seemed a little silly.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Isn't Ricky Tomlinson a reformed Capitalist?

 

[Robbie G]

Having seen the video, I shan't be voting for them. I don't agree with everything about the EU, but I don't think leaving the EU will better the UK.

 

[Higham Seagull Army]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKsdJZB8Q9w

Cheers ,great stuff . how can anyone disagree with that,just what this country needs.

 

[bigc]

Having seen the video, I shan't be voting for them. I don't agree with everything about the EU, but I don't think leaving the EU will better the UK.

Yes, in regards to the social chapter legislation, surely that would be in the socialists favour? I mean, stuff like the working week requirements.

Rail privatisation comes down to an EU directive from 1991 about seperating the ownership of track and rolling stock, but I'm sure it could just have been for just different government holding companies and the Major adminstration would have privatised it directive or no directive.

 

[Robbie G]

Cheers ,great stuff . how can anyone disagree with that,just what this country needs.

Studying Economics, the general consensus is that free trade is generally greater for all, and I tend to agree. Their main arguments appear to be completely the opposite.

 

[bigc]

Studying Economics, the general consensus is that free trade is generally greater for all, and I tend to agree. Their main arguments appear to be completely the opposite.

Tell the third world that?

I'm not saying I'm in favour of the planned economy but the pure free market and the Washington Consensus hardly showered itself in glory during the 1990s.

 

[Stoo82]

Tell the third world that?

I'm not saying I'm in favour of the planned economy but the pure free market and the Washington Consensus hardly showered itself in glory during the 1990s.

What would the 3rd world be like if is WASNT for free trade?

 

[Robbie G]

Tell the third world that?

Of course free trade isn't perfect! Taking the extreme example of no trade, then I can't see how third world countries are going to thrive? Surely free trade is leading to positive spillovers (i.e. in technology)?

Of course, free trade needs improving in its current state. Fairtrade is a good initiative, but it should be mainstream, not more of a niche.

 

[Norman Potting]

Yes, in regards to the social chapter legislation, surely that would be in the socialists favour? I mean, stuff like the working week requirements.

Rail privatisation comes down to an EU directive from 1991 about seperating the ownership of track and rolling stock, but I'm sure it could just have been for just different government holding companies and the Major adminstration would have privatised it directive or no directive.

If one is being picky I think the directive was that it should be possible to identify separately the costs of running the trains as opposed to maintaining the permanent way. That should surely be a fairly straightforward exercise and needn't involve the debacle that privitisation has become. Anyone reading this got a copy of the directive handy and they could look it up.

..........I'll get me anorak!

 

[skipper734]

Isn't Ricky Tomlinson a reformed Capitalist?

You would think so. But he was given a prison sentence during the miners strike. Union activist, must have found making people laugh was more productive.

 

[bigc]

If one is being picky I think the directive was that it should be possible to identify separately the costs of running the trains as opposed to maintaining the permanent way. That should surely be a fairly straightforward exercise and needn't involve the debacle that privitisation has become. Anyone reading this got a copy of the directive handy and they could look it up.

..........I'll get me anorak!

Yes that's the one, I didn't recall the exact wording.

Part of the debacle was due to the fact the whole thing was rushed through to avoid Labour halting the privatisation process had they got into power. I personally doubt Blair would have done, mind you.

And Stoo82, while I can't answer your question because obviously it is very hard to engage on counterfactuals on such a large scale, I do know that Africa has become a very forgotten victim of the Cold War, all the proxy conflicts the Yanks and the Soviets and even the Chinese funded out there.

 

[beorhthelm]

to paraphrase a clever chap, free markets are the worse form of economy, except all the others we have tried.

 

[Stoo82]

to paraphrase a clever chap, free markets are the worse form of economy, except all the others we have tried.

Democracy is the worst for of Government, except all others that we have tried.

 

[vegster]

I'm sure I read somewhere that in his youth, our lovely, socialist Ricky was a BNP or National front/Hitler Youth right wing foot soldier.. times change

 

[Higham Seagull Army]

Studying Economics, the general consensus is that free trade is generally greater for all, and I tend to agree. Their main arguments appear to be completely the opposite.

Greater for who exactly ?After the debacle of the MP expences has conveniently died away ,lets open a real hornets nest of the euro bureocrates gravy train.

 

[Higham Seagull Army]

I'm sure I read somewhere that in his youth, our lovely, socialist Ricky was a BNP or National front/Hitler Youth right wing foot soldier.. times change

no chance.