Albion : Getting it right off the pitch ?

[Guinness Boy]

You are upsetting yourself over nothing - these particular awards are not for your (general public) consumption. These are industry awards, voted for amongst peers, and recognising excellence within their industry. EVERY industry has them.

The particular nature of the nominations recieved, look real feathers in the caps of Tom Gorringe and Paul Beirne. Fair play to them. You might not appreciate the need for people in these roles, but just accept that if we do need them, we might as well strive to have the BEST people we can get, in the roles.

As an aside, in case anyone worries about 'faceless marketing bullshit', etc, its worth noting that before launching his football marketing career with Portsmouth and then Cardiff, Tom Gorringe was a season ticket holder at Withdean.

Not for the first time you've managed to get three paragraphs of patronising head patting out of stuff you thought I said.

I don't like these sorts of awards in other industries either. From The Brits in music to the annual marketing awards for the society of plumbers or whatever they're an excuse for a bit of fawning and backslapping. It might as well be our backs being slapped though.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Not for the first time you've managed to get three paragraphs of patronising head patting out of stuff you thought I said.

I don't like these sorts of awards in other industries either. From The Brits in music to the annual marketing awards for the society of plumbers or whatever they're an excuse for a bit of fawning and backslapping. It might as well be our backs being slapped though.

Sorry if you took it like that - I've no interest in turning a positive thread into an argument.

Just surprised that anyone's 'heart would sink' upon hearing that the club's employees were being recognised as being excellent at their jobs.

I see you just meant that you don't care for industry awards in general, so that's fair enough.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Sorry if you took it like that - I've no interest in turning a positive thread into an argument.

Just surprised that anyone's 'heart would sink' upon hearing that the club's employees were being recognised as being excellent at their jobs.

I see you just meant that you don't care for industry awards in general, so that's fair enough.

Yes that's exactly what I meant.

 

[Keith Patel]

With Paul Barber judging, surely we're winning each one as well!

 

[Frutos]

Great work by the club but, undoubtedly, on-the-pitch is the key matter.

Indeed, and we're top of the league at present.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Albion have outdone nearly all the Premier League clubs and the rest of the Football League in being nominated for 4 Football Business Awards.

- Best Fan Engagement
- Best Marketing
- Best Match Day Experience
- Best Community Scheme.

http://www.footballbusinessawards.com/finalists.html

I know i get a rep on here for being *slightly* over positive about the club but i think the efforts it puts into initiatives OFF the pitch are v.impressive The last couple of weeks illustrate that. But day by day and especially the charity; Albion in the Community , some of the ways it supports first time fans, young fans, and schools are , imo, some of the best in the country. So this is well deserved.

Thoughts ? Does any of this matter ? Is "Fan engagement" a load of marketing b***cks ?

My experience of the AITC is that they are great, and really well intentioned, but they also need to remember that when engaging the community and especially hosting young kids for fun events, that it shouldn't be about scouting on behalf of the club. Of course, they may spot some talent, but for U11's and below especially, lets not sum up a fun event as to who might get a call because one of the clubs scouts has been watching. Kids just want to be told they all did really well and that it was a great event, it isn't about who is the best, it is about developing all their talents.

School wise, their sessions at local schools are excellent. Very professional, but also great fun for all abilities, they just need to carry this through to the events they've started to host regularly at Lancing on the community pitch too.

 

[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

Also NOMINATED Best LICKERS for supporters and BIGGEST Brown NOSES

I heard that you got your BROWN nose through LICKING!

 

[Lincoln Imp]

This Tom Gorringe seems very enthusiastic and proactive in his role and it seems to have been noted...

We can congratulate Paul Barber for appointing someone of energy and drive who seems to understand how a provincial sports club relates to its community. Paul Beirne's CV is very different but his background suggests he understands it too. Let's hope that their influence spreads upwards and they, and others in the club of like mind, are given the support they need.

 

[spanish flair]

Indeed, and we're top of the league at present.

In the second tier of English football. I think its great we win all these awards but the real proof to me we are going forward is, being in the Premier league.
Am I also correct in thinking that the man in charge who is behind getting these awards is also one of the top paid CEO's in football?

So congratulations to him for earning his high paid salary.

 

[WhingForPresident]

With Paul Barber judging, surely we're winning each one as well!

He was on the judging panel that gave him CEO of the Year last year!

 

[B.W.]

Indeed, and we're top of the league at present.

Indeed. And compare to last season's lowly league table position and resultant fan discontent to see what really matters at a football club...

 

[Notters]

Indeed. And compare to last season's lowly league table position and resultant fan discontent to see what really matters at a football club...

We were all frustrated with the performances, but surely the only real discontent was amongst people new to football? All teams will have seasons like that and you just have to grin and bear it.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Great work by the club but, undoubtedly, on-the-pitch is the key matter.

Indeed. It is after all what will get season ticket sales.

I say again Mcghee said "Withdean wasnt the problem" which basically meant wages.

So I applaud the club, I really do but this is all window dressing compared to what happens ON THE PITCH.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

We were all frustrated with the performances, but surely the only real discontent was amongst people new to football? All teams will have seasons like that and you just have to grin and bear it.

Not sure about that Notters old chap (long time no speak anyway! How is the mobile?) personally I was mightily pissed off after Tonys statement about A judge at end of transfer window or season or whatever it was and B a top six squad. PLUS we are no longer titting about at Withdean where 4th from bottom was open top bus stuff.


At least this season Barbs has done the right thing and said "competitive"

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Albion have outdone nearly all the Premier League clubs and the rest of the Football League in being nominated for 4 Football Business Awards.

- Best Fan Engagement
- Best Marketing
- Best Match Day Experience
- Best Community Scheme.

http://www.footballbusinessawards.com/finalists.html

I know i get a rep on here for being *slightly* over positive about the club but i think the efforts it puts into initiatives OFF the pitch are v.impressive The last couple of weeks illustrate that. But day by day and especially the charity; Albion in the Community , some of the ways it supports first time fans, young fans, and schools are , imo, some of the best in the country. So this is well deserved.

Thoughts ? Does any of this matter ? Is "Fan engagement" a load of marketing b***cks ?

For me personally, I think it is all enormously important. I realise yours is specifically about nomination for awards. I am particularly proud of the "In the Community" stuff, and I guess the way the club reacted and acted in every way around the Shoreham Air Crash is a kind of extension of that.

And I think our match-day magazine - or programme, as they used to be called - is excellent.

I was proud to be a Brighton fan last year, when we were wallowing in the depths of despair.

 

[B.W.]

We were all frustrated with the performances, but surely the only real discontent was amongst people new to football? All teams will have seasons like that and you just have to grin and bear it.

Naïve. See declining attendances for proof.

 

[Notters]

Not sure about that Notters old chap (long time no speak anyway! How is the mobile?) personally I was mightily pissed off after Tonys statement about A judge at end of transfer window or season or whatever it was and B a top six squad. PLUS we are no longer titting about at Withdean where 4th from bottom was open top bus stuff.


At least this season Barbs has done the right thing and said "competitive"

There's a reason why you're called "Sir Rants a lot" ;-)

Nah, I agree with you but what I'm saying is, however much it perhaps shouldn't happen, the club will always cock up at some point, or something will go wrong and we'll have a bad season!

It's been a while eh? I never see you boozing in the West Upper? Don't think I ever have!

 

[Notters]

Naïve. See declining attendances for proof.

Without wanting to get into a circular argument here, yes, (slight) drops in attendance are proof of naive supporters. And are observed at all clubs when they have a poor season (see increasing attendances for proof).

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Albion have outdone nearly all the Premier League clubs and the rest of the Football League in being nominated for 4 Football Business Awards.

- Best Fan Engagement
- Best Marketing
- Best Match Day Experience
- Best Community Scheme.

http://www.footballbusinessawards.com/finalists.html

I know i get a rep on here for being *slightly* over positive about the club but i think the efforts it puts into initiatives OFF the pitch are v.impressive The last couple of weeks illustrate that. But day by day and especially the charity; Albion in the Community , some of the ways it supports first time fans, young fans, and schools are , imo, some of the best in the country. So this is well deserved.

Thoughts ? Does any of this matter ? Is "Fan engagement" a load of marketing b***cks ?

I don't think anyone would argue with any of the above.

I do think that many would argue with the lack of focus of Getting-it-right-ON-the-pitch. Which after all is supposed to be the core business, or at least the one that us customers are most interested in.

Still, the flirt with relegation last season seems to have served as a serious wake-up call to the board, and we're seeing the benefits of the board re-focussing on the playing side of things already this season..

 

[CheeseRolls]

Naïve. See declining attendances for proof.

I think we know what hard core looks like (sub 3k crowds at Priest field). The rest are there because the whole package is convenient.