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Agents Fees



The Auditor

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Sep 30, 2004
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Lord Mawhinney believes a regulatory framework to govern agents is needed after The Football League published its latest 'agents fees' report.

The report, which is the third to be published in a year by the League, states that member clubs spent more than £7.8 million on agents' fees between July 1, 2004, and June 30, 2005.

The report also states that £2.3 million was spent on fees in the first six months of this year - an increase of £1.4 million from the same period in 2004.

The total represents nearly a third of the £25 million that The Football League receives in television revenue.

Championship clubs accounted for 87.5 percent, or more than £6.8 million, of the £7.8 million spent on fees in the last 12 months - with Leeds United having spent nearly £1.9 million alone in the last year.

That compares with Watford, who only spent £9,500 in the same period, while Crewe Alexandra did not spend any money on fees.

League One clubs spent a total of £595,870 on fees - with Hull City, Sheffield Wednesday and Bristol City being the highest spenders last season.

Five clubs in Blackpool, Colchester United, Huddersfield Town, Stockport County and Wrexham did not spend money on agents over that period of time.

Only £325,020 was spent by clubs in League Two, with Southend United and Swansea City being the highest spenders in the division last season.

Seven clubs - Bury, Cheltenham Town, Kidderminster Harriers, Macclesfield Town, Rochdale, Rushden & Diamonds and Scunthorpe United - did not pay agents' fees in that period.

Mawhinney feels too much money is going out of the game to agents and he stated his disappointment that the rest of English football has not followed The Football League's policy of transparency.

He declared that the League and its member clubs will take steps of their own to introduce regulations, should no consensus be reached throughout the game.

"Football League clubs have taken an important lead in committing themselves to transparency in this area," said Mawhinney.

"Too much money is leaving football through payments to agents and League clubs have made it clear to me that they want a stronger regulatory framework governing how agents operate.

"The introduction of this much needed framework is currently being hindered by a lack of consensus on the issue across English football as a whole.

"Should this continue, then I'm sure that League clubs will not hesitate to take the lead, once again, by introducing regulations of their own.

"Regulations that will help them keep some of this much-needed money in the game."


We spent £45595 on 44 "transactions"...14 New contracts 12 updated contracts 6 cancelled contracts and 12 loan contracts

Money well spent ? comments please
 
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Stinky Kat

Tripping
Oct 27, 2004
3,382
Catsfield
Agents in the FL are kind of like consultants in the civil service. They do very little for a hell of a lot of money.

Its just modern society, everybody is too busy to look after their own affairs so they take on "specialists".

In answer to your question - Money well spent - NO
 




Stinky Kat said:
They do very little for a hell of a lot of money.


A common view, but the fact is if it were true then they would not exist. We may not like them but they are a necessary evil I'm afraid so we have to get used to paying them.
 


Stinky Kat

Tripping
Oct 27, 2004
3,382
Catsfield
Lokki 7 said:
A common view, but the fact is if it were true then they would not exist. We may not like them but they are a necessary evil I'm afraid so we have to get used to paying them.

Agents or consultants or both?
 




Stinky Kat said:
Agents or consultants or both?

Don't know anything about civil service consultants, I was talking about agents but the same probably applies to most 'middlemen'.
 




LDH

New member
Sep 22, 2004
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are they necessary? I mean what would happen if they didn't exsist? No footballers = no football, no agents = ???
 




LDH said:
are they necessary? I mean what would happen if they didn't exsist? No footballers = no football, no agents = ???


Agents provide a liquid market for players. They allow transfer of information, ie who is available, which clubs are looking etc. They also look after player interests so that (particularly the young) players are not ripped off by powerful clubs and double dealing chairman. They spend all of their time looking for the right club for their clients, and then haggling over the right pay structure which means the player himself doesn't have to and can concentrate on training/playing.

Not sure why I'm defending agents as they are probably a bunch tight-fisted scumbags, but hey, the sun's shining.
 


ditchy

a man with a sound track record as a source of qua
Jul 8, 2003
5,235
brighton
Lokki 7 said:
Agents provide a liquid market for players. They allow transfer of information, ie who is available, which clubs are looking etc. They also look after player interests so that (particularly the young) players are not ripped off by powerful clubs and double dealing chairman. They spend all of their time looking for the right club for their clients, and then haggling over the right pay structure which means the player himself doesn't have to and can concentrate on training/playing.

Not sure why I'm defending agents as they are probably a bunch tight-fisted scumbags, but hey, the sun's shining.

On the other hand .. they look to engineer moves for players who dont really want to move but can tempt them by showing greater earnings better club etc .. so as to earn the usual %age fee.. not all that bad but im a cynic on this one !
 


ditchy said:
On the other hand .. they look to engineer moves for players who dont really want to move but can tempt them by showing greater earnings better club etc .. so as to earn the usual %age fee.. not all that bad but im a cynic on this one !

And you work for...

:lolol:
 




LDH

New member
Sep 22, 2004
121
The problem is as they're on a % of the dealings they do it's in their best interest to move players about and get them wages that they don't really deserve. It's of couse us (the fans) who pay for them.

The sun may be shining but it doesn't stop all agents being scum (apart from perhaps newsagents)..
 


To completely mis-quote Churchill...

The current use of football agents is the worst possible system, except for every other system that has been tried.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,397
The arse end of Hangleton
What gets me is why the club have to pay the agent a fee. If a player wants to use an agent then the agent should bill him ( either a set fee or a % of his wages ) not the club - it shouldn't cost the club an extra penny.
 




LDH

New member
Sep 22, 2004
121
ideal solution would be if they were salaried by the pfa and didn't get % comission. Then they would actually have the players interests at heart rather than there own pockets..
 


sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
7,909
Worthing
LDH said:
ideal solution would be if they were salaried by the pfa and didn't get % comission. Then they would actually have the players interests at heart rather than there own pockets..

Exactly what I was just about to post.

These people are effectively the players union representatives, dealing with the employers in wage and conditions negotiations.

What other industry pays people to do this? I seem to recall in the dim and distant past when I didn't carry out my own negotiations that I paid the union to do this for me. My employer certainly didn't.

And with the current market, I just see that these people end up costing us money as they inflate the players earnings and then clean up whatever's left over. I don't see any reason why the clubs should pay for the benefit that the players gain from Agents being involved.

It's time the PFA took on the role - at a reasonable cost to the players, not the clubs.
 


Westdene Seagull said:
What gets me is why the club have to pay the agent a fee. If a player wants to use an agent then the agent should bill him ( either a set fee or a % of his wages ) not the club - it shouldn't cost the club an extra penny.


Then the player would just add that fee into his transfer costs and the club would pay it under a seperate name. I don't think it would change anything.
 


Race

The Tank Rules!
Aug 28, 2004
7,822
Hampshire
LDH said:
ideal solution would be if they were salaried by the pfa and didn't get % comission. Then they would actually have the players interests at heart rather than there own pockets..

The PFA can and do negotiate contracts for players, if they are asked to, thats why I cant understand why agents are used by some players. At least the PFA reps actually know about football and how it works as they are ex pro's themselves. Agents usually come from some sort of financial background and dont necessarily know anything about the industry. In my opinion only a small percentage of players really need agents, most bread and butter players have straight forward contracts. Why pay some idiot who will rip you off with a hefty cut just to negotiate a basic wage? DK hates agents and wont deal with them unless he really has to. Tank hasnt used an agent since his move from Spurs to Pompey (all those years ago!). :)
 




HampshireSeagulls

Moulding Generation Z
Jul 19, 2005
5,264
Bedford
Race said:
The PFA can and do negotiate contracts for players, if they are asked to, thats why I cant understand why agents are used by some players. At least the PFA reps actually know about football and how it works as they are ex pro's themselves. Agents usually come from some sort of financial background and dont necessarily know anything about the industry. In my opinion only a small percentage of players really need agents, most bread and butter players have straight forward contracts. Why pay some idiot who will rip you off with a hefty cut just to negotiate a basic wage? DK hates agents and wont deal with them unless he really has to. Tank hasnt used an agent since his move from Spurs to Pompey (all those years ago!). :)

..if my agent had sent me to Fratton Park, I would be allergic to the buggers as well.....

It seems that most agents are relatives of players, managers, etc, who have managed to work their way into the system through family contacts. Look at the shambles with Anelka, all his brothers did was tout him around Europe to generate fees with the end result that clubs were nervous about taking him on. I daresay the agents claim to be protecting their guys, but I would have thought that a decent contract lawyer provided by the PFA would do the job just as well?
 


Stinky Kat

Tripping
Oct 27, 2004
3,382
Catsfield
Mark Cartwright is now an agent.

Do agents have to pass tests like coaches
 


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