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But could Jonny Peacock beat Bolt ?
David Weir beat Stephen Kiprotich's time by over 30 minutes, what's the point you are trying to make
But could Jonny Peacock beat Bolt ?
Picture from yesterday:
Good wasn't it. What I don't understand is why he was the highest classification, 3.5, when he only had one hand. Any ideas?I was there! Got that French guys autograph as we left the Olympic Park, he was being mobbed by fans. What a player!
You want to be careful there, I'm quite touchy about people stealing my photos.(and I'm stealing your photo, thanks!)
dozens of my friends.
Ok,and as the OP,maybe i am wrong (and by the posts i am) wonderful event,superb effort. Full respect. I watched the blind runners at Manchester Games and like the crowd roared them on. Sporting Achievement YES. Sporting Excellent, No.
But could Jonny Peacock beat Bolt ?
I'm very sorry that some people are disabled. Sh1t happens. But I don't see the need for the rest of us to suffer the cost and inconvenience of trying to make everything "disabled freindly" for a small minority of the population.
You are being absurdly harsh on the OP. Ultimately, all he is saying is that Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world, whereas Jonnie Peacock is the fastest man with one leg and Weir is the fastest man in a wheelchair. That is not to belittle the achievements of the Paralympians, but if you can't recognise that there are 6 billion able-bodied people in the world and only a tiny fraction of that who have a leg missing, and you refuse to accept that the achievements of Bolt and Peacock should be framed by these facts, then you are being patronising and over-sentimental towards the Paralympians.Could Weir beat Bolt running? No
Could Bolt beat Weir in a chair? He'd had to change his training regime somewhat to have a crack, at the very least.
The OP is coming from someone without a disability and clearly any sort of knowledge on disabilities. I can see where he Is comIng from. However, Ignorance breeds contempt.
On the other hand, I have no sympathy for [MENTION=144]goldstone[/MENTION], and his appalling ignorant comments, as he is a proven moron and can only agree with Wozza here.Wow. What a shit human being you are.
Don't spout such utter drivel.
but is it a spectator sport? Not in my opinion. Do I give a damn who wins or loses? No. Have I watched any of it? No.
So its not a spectator sport because you didn't watch it
I'm very sorry that some people are disabled. Sh1t happens. But I don't see the need for the rest of us to suffer the cost and inconvenience of trying to make everything "disabled freindly" for a small minority of the population.
Beggars belief doesn't it.Wow. What a shit human being you are.
As a Games Maker during the Paralympic Games, I have had the extreme pleasure of being able to witness some fantastic achievement that, for me, show sporting excellence in disability sports. Let me give you a few examples.
Witnessing the Athletics a few times was something else. Witnessing the likes of Oscar Pistorius, who have amputated legs, to run at speeds and multiple events in a short period of time is amazing. But to have gone through the agonising pain of having amputated legs takes a lot of effort to get use to; mentallt, physically and emotionally. These guys are heroes. They can run at 10.9 seconds, which some 100m sprinters in the Olympics consistently hit, how does that not make Paralympics sporting excellence? But other than Pistorius and Peacock, is Jason Smyth, the blind Irish sprinter. The guy trains with Tyson Gay, 4x100m relay silver medallist, even he says Smyth can give the former world record holder a run for his money. In his final classification, his final finishing time? 10.59 seconds. That's just a second slower than Bolt. Why do I think he achieves sporting excellence? He is visionally impaired; he can't see beyond 5 metres, yet can run that distance better than fully abled atheletes that, apparently, achieve sporting excellence, and you're saying he doesn't? As Boris would say: poppy-cock! Who can forget Brit's very own, David Weir. The roar when I was on the otherside of Olympic Park said it all for me about the 4-time gold medallist: true example of sporting excellence. A wheelchair-bound athlete was able to compete in the 800m; 1500m; 5000m and the marathon. Even competing in those alone is a fantastic sporting achievement but to get golds in all of them and to tell me that is not sporting excellence is ludicrous!
Moving on to Swimming and we all know where this is going, Ellie Simmonds who has achondroplasia. She's an idol, no doubt she'll be battling for the Personality of the Year award and even receiving a few honours. In Beijing, she broke one of the world records in her events by 5 seconds and took 2 golds from that games. In London it's a different story! In her Medley event she was getting thrashed, her rival had a good 15 metre advantage over her, but she showed passion, determination and composure to finish in style. The final length saw her take the gold and break the world record she set that morning. Finest of examples of sporting excellence. But she doesn't stop there, she gets on to equal her gold winning tally in a games at 2 along with another silver and bronze. For someone of her condition really shows "not what they can't, but what they can do".
How about the blind 5-a-side football? The players have to use their sense of hearing and feel to get to grips of the games. And some of these players have incredible ball control and not only that, passing accuracy. Some of the players really show they are the Xavi's and Iniesta's in that sport and provide moments that will impress the likes of Messi and Pele. How is that not excellence within sport I ask you?
Goalball is fantastic, 3-a-side visionally impaired players throwing a ball in a goal the length of the pitch. How do they prevent conceding a goal? They listen to the bells that I struggle to hear in the first couple of rows. Some of these players can sense where the ball is and the direction is going which is incredible! Imagine it, you're blindfolded playing against these guys and they thrash you, because they are excellent in their sport play against other excellent players in excellent sporting events including the Paralympics. That is sporting excellence.
How about that archer from USA, Matt Stutzman!? No arms, holds his arrow with his mouth and the bow with his foot, that is unbelievable and is even evidently better than archers in the Olympics that are apparently involved in sporting excellence, in your eyes. How is he better? He holds the world record for the longest accurate archery shot ever! Few have tried to beat it but fail, miserably. True testament to sporting exellence
I could go on in this rant but I am just going to finish it all of by saying this: Sporting Excellence is in the Paralympics and other disabled sporting events, you know it, I know it and now the whole world knows this! They have inspired a generation, not the Olympics!
Ok,and as the OP,maybe i am wrong (and by the posts i am) wonderful event,superb effort. Full respect. I watched the blind runners at Manchester Games and like the crowd roared them on. Sporting Achievement YES. Sporting Excellent, No.