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Jan 28, 2009
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From the BBC footy website...

'England are set to have their lowest travelling support at a tournament in years after thousands of Euro 2012 tickets were returned to Uefa.

The Football Association was given around 7,500 tickets for the games against France and Ukraine, and 9,000 for the Sweden fixture.
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“It is not a holiday destination and the question is how do you spend the days between the games”

Kevin Miles Football Supporters Federation

Only 3,000 tickets were sold through England's official membership group for each of the group games.

The unsold tickets have been sent back to Uefa and will go on general sale.

The FA are hopeful that up to 10,000 England fans will choose to travel and purchase their own tickets independently.

However, it is anticipated there will only be another 2,000 England fans at the France and Ukraine games and a further 3,000 against Sweden.

It means England supporters will likely be outnumbered as travelling fans at a major tournament for the first time in years.

Football Supporters Federation spokesman Kevin Miles believes the current economic climate, coupled with the high costs of travel and accommodation, have put many off.

"It boils down to a number of factors coming back to what people feel they get for their money," Miles told BBC Sport.

"It is hard to get flights to Kiev, with prices at a premium, while the distances between venues is huge and there is the cost involved in travelling those distances. The hotel prices have also been hugely inflated.

"It is not a holiday destination and the question is, how do you spend the days between the games? It is not the Algarve, where families could go off to the beach for a day."
England fixtures in Ukraine

June 11 v France (Donetsk)
June 15 v Sweden (Kiev)
June 19 v Ukraine (Donetsk)

Safety is also a concern and former England defender Sol Campbell recently urged black or Asian fans not to risk going to the Ukraine, telling BBC's Panorama they should "stay home, watch it on TV... don't even risk it."

The programme filmed scenes of black players being taunted as well as a group of Asian students being assaulted.

While Miles accepts fears of racial abuse is a contributing factor, he does not believe it is one of the main reasons for supporters choosing not to travel.

"I don't think it is a major factor," he added.

"It is clearly an issue but most people who are going to go to the Euros have already made their decision to travel.

"The Foreign and Commonwealth Office have an advisory on their website saying black and Asian people should exercise caution when travelling to Ukraine, but that has been their stance for the past five years."

And of course, because we are sh*t, and only hard-core fans are going to mug themselves off :rolleyes:
 






StonehamPark

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Oct 30, 2010
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While Miles accepts fears of racial abuse is a contributing factor, he does not believe it is one of the main reasons for supporters choosing not to travel.

"I don't think it is a major factor," he added.

"It is clearly an issue but most people who are going to go to the Euros have already made their decision to travel.

I think it's 80% of the reason no one is making the trip over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj6M4yW0S_I
 








Mutts Nuts

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Oct 30, 2011
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From the BBC footy website...

'England are set to have their lowest travelling support at a tournament in years after thousands of Euro 2012 tickets were returned to Uefa.

The Football Association was given around 7,500 tickets for the games against France and Ukraine, and 9,000 for the Sweden fixture.
Continue reading the main story

“It is not a holiday destination and the question is how do you spend the days between the games”

Kevin Miles Football Supporters Federation

Only 3,000 tickets were sold through England's official membership group for each of the group games.

The unsold tickets have been sent back to Uefa and will go on general sale.

The FA are hopeful that up to 10,000 England fans will choose to travel and purchase their own tickets independently.

However, it is anticipated there will only be another 2,000 England fans at the France and Ukraine games and a further 3,000 against Sweden.

It means England supporters will likely be outnumbered as travelling fans at a major tournament for the first time in years.

Football Supporters Federation spokesman Kevin Miles believes the current economic climate, coupled with the high costs of travel and accommodation, have put many off.

"It boils down to a number of factors coming back to what people feel they get for their money," Miles told BBC Sport.

"It is hard to get flights to Kiev, with prices at a premium, while the distances between venues is huge and there is the cost involved in travelling those distances. The hotel prices have also been hugely inflated.

"It is not a holiday destination and the question is, how do you spend the days between the games? It is not the Algarve, where families could go off to the beach for a day."
England fixtures in Ukraine

June 11 v France (Donetsk)
June 15 v Sweden (Kiev)
June 19 v Ukraine (Donetsk)

Safety is also a concern and former England defender Sol Campbell recently urged black or Asian fans not to risk going to the Ukraine, telling BBC's Panorama they should "stay home, watch it on TV... don't even risk it."

The programme filmed scenes of black players being taunted as well as a group of Asian students being assaulted.

While Miles accepts fears of racial abuse is a contributing factor, he does not believe it is one of the main reasons for supporters choosing not to travel.

"I don't think it is a major factor," he added.

"It is clearly an issue but most people who are going to go to the Euros have already made their decision to travel.

"The Foreign and Commonwealth Office have an advisory on their website saying black and Asian people should exercise caution when travelling to Ukraine, but that has been their stance for the past five years."

And of course, because we are sh*t, and only hard-core fans are going to mug themselves off :rolleyes:

can`t see us getting through the 1st round to be honest, ridiculous travelling for the players to the games and carrol has only scored 6 goals in 40 something games why the fcuk is he even in the squad, why would anyone go
 










Herr Tubthumper

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Who'd want to travel all that way and spunk all that money to have a chav like Rooney not only choke, but slag you off into the bargain.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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how do you spend the days between games

A sad indictment of your typical England fan. There's loads of things you can do and see in Ukraine and Poland.
 






BrightonGuy

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can`t see us getting through the 1st round to be honest, ridiculous travelling for the players to the games and carrol has only scored 6 goals in 40 something games why the fcuk is he even in the squad, why would anyone go


We probably won't make it passed the groups but its not the big man upfront i'm worried about because you need to have the option...
Stewart Downing however, is the worst possible player he could have ever picked 0 goals, 0 assists this year for liverpool is not really good enough.:facepalm:
 


D Block blue

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Feb 23, 2009
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A sad indictment of your typical England fan. There's loads of things you can do and see in Ukraine and Poland.

Oh good as from 2 weeks today i shall be in the Ukraine and really looking forward to it, been following England around for 14 years and some media always do there upmost to make a big deal about violence and safety before tournaments. Seen it all before, just a shame that people may be put off and miss out on what usually great trips abroad:thumbsup:
 




Thimble Keegan

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Jul 7, 2003
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Well I cannot be bothered to go as I have sort of given up following England...Sort of lost the passion a bit plus I have tickets for The Stone Roses on the day of the final!

Albion & England forever.

Thimble Keegan
Littlehampton BHA
 


element

Fear [is] the key.....
Jan 28, 2009
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We probably won't make it passed the groups but its not the big man upfront i'm worried about because you need to have the option...
Stewart Downing however, is the worst possible player he could have ever picked 0 goals, 0 assists this year for liverpool is not really good enough.:facepalm:

The plain truth is there aren't 23 English players of sufficient quality to mount a credible challenge. Look at the Premier League on any given weekend and it is massively top-heavy with overseas imports, with very few English players getting a look-in. The Premier League, in cahoots with the FA, has stifled opportunity for homegrown talent to rise to the top. It is only very recently that the clubs have been forced to enlist a quota of English players in their squads, and the lack of quality is blatantly evident. It will be ten years before the newly instigated reforms of kid's football, where they will be taught revolutionary things like passing, shooting, and ball-control, come to fruition. Until then, we will have to put up with a below-par dirge being served up every two years :cry:
 




Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
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The plain truth is there aren't 23 English players of sufficient quality to mount a credible challenge. Look at the Premier League on any given weekend and it is massively top-heavy with overseas imports, with very few English players getting a look-in. The Premier League, in cahoots with the FA, has stifled opportunity for homegrown talent to rise to the top. It is only very recently that the clubs have been forced to enlist a quota of English players in their squads, and the lack of quality is blatantly evident. It will be ten years before the newly instigated reforms of kid's football, where they will be taught revolutionary things like passing, shooting, and ball-control, come to fruition. Until then, we will have to put up with a below-par dirge being served up every two years :cry:

I know what you mean. Similar problems really ruined Greece and Denmarks chances of winning the tournament in recent memory. The fact is a set of average players with a good team ethic can overcome all of the star teams. Whether we will ever have that team ethic is a different question.
 




Mutts Nuts

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I know what you mean. Similar problems really ruined Greece and Denmarks chances of winning the tournament in recent memory. The fact is a set of average players with a good team ethic can overcome all of the star teams. Whether we will ever have that team ethic is a different question.

The wrong man got the job pearce should be in charge,at 49 he is young enough and he knows the squad, at 65 the current manager is far too fcuking old
 


Giraffe

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I decided against it on the basis of the distance between venues, the distance from
England and the lack of anything good in between other than drinking.

Flights around these areas also have a terrible safety record.
 


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