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I never for one moment suggested that state money is not spent on cancer research.

Stephens is really not the player we had last season. Had his head turned and it looks like he's not really interested in us any more.

You see, we are all different (thankfully) and I am totally animals over people. Nearly all my hard earnt charity goes towards animal welfare.

I can totally understand that. However if it was taken from your pay packet as a matter of course because you are paying for the RNLI, Cancer Research, etc., you would take it on the chin.

But do you think the likes of the RNLI, Air Ambulance and Hospices should be brought within the remit of the state? And cancer research.

Why not?

I think in an ideal world (we will never have one) it won't be a raise of 14%, it would possibly be 3% once you've upped corporation tax, etc., etc. I am a die hard tory that seems to be going ever so much a bit socialist in my old age. Perhaps I'll need that NHS help soon!

But you are 'doing your bit' when you set up a direct debit. Surely?

Yep, I get the bit about the choices, difficult workaround there. But you have to admit, we have charities coming out of our ears nowadays, all heart tugging. We need to be able to look after the most severe cases of illness nowadays and that includes cancer and dementia, and not rely on people...

I don't disagree with a word you say, or those before that have come up with why we shouldn't have state sponsored money paying for basic and quite necessary needs. I just wanted to make the debate, and I still haven't seen a post that makes me think otherwise. However, my most concerning thing...

But if it is funded this way doesn't it mean we all pay equally for our health, rescue services, etc., etc. I know it is a far reaching thought.

All good fiscal points. But I'd still rather pay into the state than give handouts. The state relies on our handouts.

I thought he was good last season too, but he was not anywhere near the form he has shown this season. And yes, he should never have been written off. He has shown this season what a valuable asset he is. Experience and longevity. We really needed some of that. But still our most improved...

I think I already mentioned that?

I have not, at any point, said they don't contribute, I have merely stated, that, in my opinion, it usually rests on working class people's shoulders to shoulder the burden. I am very active in funding charities and have been for many years. But my point is/was, surely in a country such as ours...

No I can't, hence I said 'tends'. It is in my opinion.

No I do realise the middle and uppers pay their whack in charity. But it is the working class that always tend to make the majority of the money available to charity.

Good points.

Again, maybe I didn't word it right, in which case my bad, but that is not the point of this subject. What I am trying to explain is that a country like ours should not be asking for extra money because the current (whatever) Government will not pay towards vital needs. Cancer is one such thing...

Well, I do, but that's not the point of the subject.