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for what it's worth i got no sleep last night, and since i was 4,000 miles away i left work cos at 1-0 down i was about to hit one of my clients, or colleagues... so for at least that long you had me beat.

learn that 5 times about 9 years ago did you? on a more serious note hats off to the majority on this thread. seems a more level headed forum than many i've seen.