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By putting their fingers in their ears and going "lalalala Jesus is completely different to the God of the OT lalalalalala nothing to do with Christianity lalalalala it's the Jews really lalalala". Once they realise that they don't even need to go to a building on a Sunday and be all happy...

I agree in principle with what you say and it's true no society is perfect. The point is though that the humanist content of the Bible is relatively small and we are fortunate that,for the most part, Christians choose to think about the vast majority of it in the way you do. That's why we...

Err... not really. The bit containing supposedly eye witness accounts of Jesus life is limited to 4 of 66 books. More than half is the OT which is full of vindictive acts of violence by God and his "chosen" people. Even the NT is full of Paul's writings who was an outrageous misogynist and...

Are they so integrated that they have no problem with homosexuality, permit their wives to dress as they wish, reject myths on the creation of the universe and the world around us etc. etc.? Of course there are plenty of non-Muslims that have non-secular or progressive views on such matters and...

Here's one for him.... (The Phoenix Nights location)

Thanks for the reminder and apologies for the contribution my debating with one or two posters has made to this. As someone who has experienced the negative effects of organised religion in my own life I just find the harm that religious ideology causes utterly abhorrent and I've let that get...

I am absolutely not judging it on the OT. I am just pointing that Christians accept the whole of the Bible canon as part of their holy book. The God of the OT is the same God that is represented by Jesus in the NT. If you check the conversation I have been having on in the subject you will...

I'm not defending either. Frankly it's all a bunch of superstitious nonsense as far as I am concerned. You claimed Jesus' message was different and I would agree the overall message of the NT is not the same as the OT (although as I say, Paul managed to create a bunch of intolerant morals out...

Not really. He apparently idly sat back whilst his father (or other part of him depending on your view of the Trinity) threw fire and brimstone on two whole cities, had the ground swallow up thousands of apostates against Moses, killed 72,000 (I think) people because King David had the temerity...

The problem here is two fold. Firstly, as pointed out by another poster, Islam lacks a handful of influential leaders with global reach. Secondly, and more critically I think, there is still an essentially "cult" culture at ground level. I mean this in the sense that there is immense social...

This of course is true however that still doesn't prevent the majority of Muslims in this country from seeking reform and progression. Something has to change and simply throwing the burden onto Western governments and us all in terms of some kind of generic "western" culture does nothing to...

I hope you don't mean the Creationist Museum or the big Noah's Ark theme park... Seriously however I didn't mean to imply that modern day Christians are anti-science or obstructive of scientific progress, more that when you look at major aspects of early modern scientific understanding (e.g...

This is exactly what the moderate Muslim majority should be embracing... http://www.centerforinquiry.net/secularislam/articles_and_books/a_call_to_the_muslims_of_the_world/

True however the Bible has become essentially an impotent irrelevance for most since there was a critical mass of simply ignoring the stone age bits. There is no reason why those who claim a moderate view of the world back that up with actions and chuck out the stone age bits of the Koran...

To be fair neither has Christianity. Most of the advances in scientific knowledge have been made despite religious faith not because of it.

I have no doubt that few of the Muslims that live in the UK are willing let alone capable of perpetrating such heinous crimes however there is the inescapable fact that Islam, like many forms of Christianity in times past, creates a difference between the believer and non-believer. Tolerance is...

What's the difference between a Lamborghini and a hard on? I haven't got a Lamborghini.

Tune of Twist and Shout. Something like... Richie Towell baby now, Richie Towell or similar repeated until.... oooooooo oooooooo ooooooo oooooo Richie Towell ... Repeat. For ages. It's brilliant. PS. I can't remember the precise combination of "Richie Towell baby now", "Richie Towell"...

Ok it's not GOSBTS but come on - it's inventive and funny. Almost as funny as the Murray song line "we called him a c***, now he plays up front"...

The one positive of Uwe making it back in is that we get to sing one of the best songs we have, although the RT one was really good as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKZVytYv86E