Don't think I've seen Veltman start at CB for us but he's definitely got some experience there.
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[Albion] Positives from Tonight (Wolves)
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If you didn’t think he looked good in that first half there is no hope for you. The control and turn for the goal Minteh ended up spoiling is a case in point. He tired in the second half definitely but first half he was good.
Irritating that there are people still thinking like this.
How many other clubs have second string keepers who are actually happy to play second fiddle without itching for a move elsewhere? And how bad is he really given that he's been a major part of a squad over 3 or 4 years that has consistently been our best squad EVER?
Yes he makes mistakes and isn't a great shot stopper, but that's why he is second choice AND HAPPY TO BE SO. Plus you can bet your arse his attitude in training and around the club is absolutely spot on. This is no secret.
I would love him to look good, strong in the challenge for the ball, decent first touch, good positioning in attacking breaks etc.. but he didn't. Hopefully it will come as he builds some confidence in his body and fitness, and some clarity in his role, which seem to be what he is lacking.
Danny Welbeck showed what could be done, albeit against a chaotic and tiring opposition.
Danny Welbeck showed what could be done, albeit against a chaotic and tiring opposition.
Withdean South Stand
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Come on, he's rubbish. He started the game and we conceded 2. Of course we did, we always do with him in the team. He's not good enough on the pitch, so I don't want to see him play for the team again. I'm sure he's fine around the club, good influence and all that - which is very important in building a culture in the squad, but I don't want to see him play again. Every club has a happy second choice goalkeeper.
He's not rubbish. If he was, how come RDZ - responsible for our best ever finish - kept rotating him with Bart, now the Dutch number one? He was at fault for one goal yesterday, but he also kept out at least two one on ones.
And as for your last sentence - absolute bollocks. Unless of course you think Aaron Ramsdale thought "it's brilliant here at Arsenal as number two, that's why it makes perfect sense for me to move to title challengers, Southampton"
Withdean South Stand
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I think Ramsdale is probably a good and apt comparison. He will be relegated the third time in his career at Southampton, because he's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. When he plays, the team concedes goals. Arteta replaced him, and Raya won the Golden Glove and Arsenal were much better defensively. Verbruggen replaces Steele and we're much better defensively. Using an Albion example, Michel Kuipers replacing Graeme Smith and then John Sullivan. A good goalkeeper makes a massive difference to the team and inevitably you stop conceding so many goals. If you have a bad goalkeeper it's very difficult to win games and that's why we didn't win many with Steele last season.
Anyway, it's the same arguments being rehashed time and time again. I think it's very obvious that Steele is fine for the squad but should never play for us again, unless there's an injury to Bart.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Didn't get one, sold out in the west. And with 45 mins before KO, 30 mins by the time I reached the front, the pies were cold. I thought those storage units were heated.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Not sure that's a positive from last night. Aren't they both injured?
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Maybe I'm just old school, but I think it's right to get behind and, y'know, SUPPORT all of the players that are out on the pitch. I don't really get what coming on here after the game and slagging them off does, apart from maybe making the posters feel better. Sure, you can say they weren't great (I thought Mitoma was pretty shite on Saturday - and said so to the Bobkin Jnrs), but why go to the lengths of being thankful it's one step closer to you never seeing them in the team again?
Especially when they (like Steele) have earned the right to be on the pitch in the first place! If it was Leon Best or the Dutch DJ I might understand it. But still wouldn't bang on about it on here!
Especially when they (like Steele) have earned the right to be on the pitch in the first place! If it was Leon Best or the Dutch DJ I might understand it. But still wouldn't bang on about it on here!
Professor Plum
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Positives? Being able to get a good WiFi signal all evening, being able to get a pie pre-game without queuing, the Seagull Travel bus getting away straight after the game instead of sitting motionless in a 40 minute engine-revving festival.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Agree with all of that apart from webster. He was gash, as was igor. I suspect playing either of them with Dunk or PvH would get better performance but as a pair they were frighteningly bad. That is not an experiment that we should ever repeat again.
Spartakashington
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New song ! Oooh oooh oooh Ferdi Kadioglu . Amazing shoeing the surname in . Genius.
7dialssouthpaw
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fair enough ... I thought him and Webster combined pretty well defensively, though (particularly in the first half) and I liked Igor's coming forward with the ball, which he does less when alongside Dunk.
By contrast, we were particularly weak on both flanks (the cause of their first goal). The second goal was 100% on Steele.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Yep.
Made a couple of decent saves and claims, and swept up a lot of dangerous situations.
Bad howler of course, but that's going to happen playing the way we do.
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Taybha
Whalewhine
Ferguson got a hour 
Baleba did a Kazenga
Andringa showed the boss he's the man
Hinshelwood clearance of the season
Baleba did a Kazenga
Andringa showed the boss he's the man
Hinshelwood clearance of the season
Wardy's twin
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and until that mental aberration at the end had looked ok coming out quickly to break up attacks.
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jackalbion
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The second goal was clearly his fault, but other than that, I actually thought he had a good game, claimed everything, positioning was very good. Moder otherwise was culpable for the first, I do feel like a lot of people are sitting and waiting for Steele to make a mistake so they can tell everyone how crap he is, he's absolutely fine, and was fine in the first two games.
Withdean South Stand
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He played, we conceded two. That's why I don't want him in the team, because he's always going to be picking the ball out of his net. Luckily, we got away with it against Everton but every time Man Utd went forward they put the ball in his net - we were just lucky they can't time their runs. A bad goalkeeper undermines the ability of the team, and he's a bad goalkeeper at this level.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Nah you are wrong there it was after one minute