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[Albion] Simon Adingra - 20 year old Ivory Coast forward - Signed 24/06/2022



Dancin Ninja BHA

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Jul 6, 2003
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If necessary, then yes. It needs to be a meritocracy where performances count for more than star power, or players aren't going to be motivated. Adingra has done enough to deserve the chance in one role and another.
I totally agree, to be honest neither Mitoma or Minteh should be starting over Adingra on current form
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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On form, Adingra is our best winger. He's contributing goals and assists and has a knack of making things happen.

Mitoma has had a mixed start I agree, but we just know what he's capable of, so I don't think he should be dropped.

Adingra in for Minteh on the right would be my selection for the weekend.

No criticism to Minteh who I think is full of promise and does offer the team a lot. But a youngster like that shouldn't struggle through a dip in for whilst in the team. Bring him out and give him minutes at the end when the game is getting more stretched
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Or should we be starting Ferdi on the right wing? Adingra on the left.

Mitoma and Minteh for impact in the last 20?
 


Jimmy Grimble

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If necessary, then yes. It needs to be a meritocracy where performances count for more than star power, or players aren't going to be motivated. Adingra has done enough to deserve the chance in one role and another.
He did have the huge benefit of an overlapping Pervis to help him which neither Mitoma or Minteh have had yet. But yes, he probably should start ahead of Minteh on Sunday.
 


Klaas

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Nov 1, 2017
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On form, Adingra is our best winger. He's contributing goals and assists and has a knack of making things happen.

Mitoma has had a mixed start I agree, but we just know what he's capable of, so I don't think he should be dropped.

Adingra in for Minteh on the right would be my selection for the weekend.

No criticism to Minteh who I think is full of promise and does offer the team a lot. But a youngster like that shouldn't struggle through a dip in for whilst in the team. Bring him out and give him minutes at the end when the game is getting more stretched
(y)Saved me typing all that
 








Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Not to be understated. Adingra's goal was because of the Estupiñan overlap. I don't think Hinshelwood overlapped Minteh once.
Yes, it was and he continued this marauding in the second half.

Pervis is surely our first choice left back. What we need to someone to fill the holes when our full backs overlap
 




Jimmy Grimble

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Not to be understated. Adingra's goal was because of the Estupiñan overlap. I don't think Hinshelwood overlapped Minteh once.
And Enciso’s ‘underlap’. Two great runs after a moment of transition completely opened it up for Adingra.

I haven’t seen a great replay angle but I’m also pretty sure if Steele or Verbruggen let that past them there would be question marks. In fact, I’m 100% certain if it was Steele!
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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I haven’t seen a great replay angle but I’m also pretty sure if Steele or Verbruggen let that past them there would be question marks. In fact, I’m 100% certain if it was Steele!
100% Sa got his hand to Adingra's and let Baleba score low down, from getting on for 30 yards.

Wolves fans will be asking questions there
 


Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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Not to be understated. Adingra's goal was because of the Estupiñan overlap. I don't think Hinshelwood overlapped Minteh once.
That wasn’t the system though was it?

Correct me if I am wrong but don’t we play our FBs as De Zerbi tended to - when we play a wide progression of the ball it tends to go mainly down the left channels? Pervis always has played more of a FB than a traditional/simple LB - that’s what we missed so much last season when he was injured - a speedy FB who could overlap with Mitoma who then put the cross in from a wide position behind the first line of defenders ? Igor wasn’t that type of player.

Hinsh and Minteh seem to have a different roles on the right than our left side players - Hinsh (who doesn’t have the speed Pervis does) cutting inside to a more central defensive position to progress the ball rather than sprinting up the outside right channels. Minteh often cutting inside, dropping deep and then overloading the central attacking areas to stretch the central defenders wide.

I may have got all that wrong but that’s my impression.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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That wasn’t the system though was it?

Correct me if I am wrong but don’t we play our FBs as De Zerbi tended to - when we play a wide progression of the ball it tends to go mainly down the left channels? Pervis always has played more of a FB than a traditional/simple LB - that’s what we missed so much last season when he was injured - a speedy FB who could overlap with Mitoma who then put the cross in from a wide position behind the first line of defenders ? Igor wasn’t that type of player.
I see it the same, but i'm not sure if we play this way due to the strategy of the manager or the available personnel for the first few games.

So for example, if we started a game with Ferdi (or Tariq) at RB and Pervis at LB, would we play more symmetrically with both full backs prepared to overlap? We may ... but we'd need plenty of cover from midfield
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Not to be understated. Adingra's goal was because of the Estupiñan overlap. I don't think Hinshelwood overlapped Minteh once.
Hinshelwoods role from full back has never really been to overlap his winger. He’s always been played to tuck inside as an extra central midfielder. It does take away from our wing play on the side he’s playing on but allows him to drift into the box almost unnoticed at times at the far post. That is what led to a couple of his goals last season. He seems to be being used in the same way by both Fabian and previously RDZ.
 


marlowe

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Dec 13, 2015
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.... Actually think Minteh would be a great impact sub saturday
I realise we're a progressive club but I think perhaps that might be taking things a step too far... not to mention the negative impact it might have on his confidence....

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Worthingite

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Sep 16, 2011
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I love Adingra's style of play - he's got a touch of the Knockaerts about him, very unpredictable and produces something out of nothing. My only criticism of him is that sometimes he tries to go for flair over practicality, but he's young and he'll learn in time.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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I realise we're a progressive club but I think perhaps that might be taking things a step too far... not to mention the negative impact it might have on his confidence....

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Don't know though. Minteh and maybe we can find a couple of 6 foot 3 trannies, might be what we need to have any chance of chasing down the title favourites in the WSL
 


The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
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Has to be starting at the moment.
If you have the amount of attacking players we do, and you've spent the amount of money we have on them, you simply have to be picking the form players.
 


Zeberdi

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I see it the same, but i'm not sure if we play this way due to the strategy of the manager or the available personnel for the first few games.

So for example, if we started a game with Ferdi (or Tariq) at RB and Pervis at LB, would we play more symmetrically with both full backs prepared to overlap? We may ... but we'd need plenty of cover from midfield
Maybe but I don‘t think so - it’s not Hinsh’s lack of speed that necessitates an asymmetric system - I don’t remember Lampty at his peak speeds playing overlaps with March, even under Potter - RDZ used his RBs to slip into the CD midfield areas behind the ball as extra cover when the ball had been played out vertically into the MF ( carried forward by Gilmour/Caceido) or progressed up the left channel by Pervis.

If FH resorts at some point to 3 at the back, I guess Hinsh could be even more important in that dual FB/right sided central defender role.
 






Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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I'm sure Adingra will start on Sunday. This is why we've built up this strength in depth in attacking areas. When one has a dip in form (or, God forbid, gets injured), another steps in.

The only questions are does Mitoma get benched so Adingra can play in his favoured left wing berth? And will it be Rutter or Ferdi on the right? I'm sure Fab will see that Minteh needs a rest.
 


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