Clive Walker
Stand Or Fall
its somewhere between a little late and a bit late. could be seen as a very late challenge but they happen quite often.
move on people.
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[Albion] Matt O Riley [26/08/24 - sings on a 5-year deal]
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move on people.
Professor Plum
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- Jul 27, 2024
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It wasn’t a tackle at all unless you have a different definition. He wanted to ‘put one on him’ pure and simple. The smile and wink put the tin lid on it for me.
Again, I just don’t get the apologist approach from some people. It was a brutal challenge and the idea of ‘the enforcer’ a la Vinnie Jones went out decades ago. The only reason we’re still talking about this is that some people, and I suspect there’s a few closet Crawley fans among them, keep complaining that it was nothing more than a robust challenge that MOR wasn’t quick enough to get out of the way of. I’m guessing that a lot of people on the pro-thuggery side weren’t actually at the game at all. The atmosphere was horrible and the Crawley fans had a lot of deeply unpleasant people among them.
SeagullinExile
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Yep. Not two footed either.
Ref awarded a free-kick, and had a very brief word with Williams. So, will rpobably be classed as the ref saw it, deemed it to be a foul - but not a cardable one. In which case, there won't be any retrospecitve action.Have the rules been changed then? The Hemed incident was obviously 'seen', but not deemed to be a red card. "Referee sees nothing in it"
Hemed was pursued after the game and given a retrospective red and 3 match ban (which had a massive impact on his career with us as he had just hit a streak of form that was never repeated).
Tomer Hemed: Brighton contest charge over DeAndre Yedlin incident
Brighton will contest Tomer Hemed's Football Association charge of violent conduct, following an incident in their win over Newcastle.www.bbc.co.uk
The referee will have to say he either didn't see the challenge by the Crawley thug, or that he did see it and 'saw nothing in it'.
In either case, unless the rules have changed (how?) the thug CAN be pursued by the FA.
Professor Plum
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- Jul 27, 2024
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If you think it’s a RUBBISH tackle that’s put our new playmaker in hospital needing surgery, putting him out of action for months, than you should be furious like most people. To regard it as just a bit “annoying” means you’re absolutely not reading the room on this one. Understand the anger or back off.
lost in london
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I'm just more philosophical about these things. I am gutted for MOR, I'm not pro-thuggery or closet Crawley. I wish it hadn't happened, but it did, so there we are, these things happen, just ask Leno and Maupay. Move on. We've got cover.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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Yep all that we can hope for is that shit ref won't be reffing any premier league games.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Agree that a lot of our responses are over the top, but equally the challenge was not "just one of those things".
That type of challenge is regularly referred to as a "potential leg breaker" . because frankly it was.
mis-timed, deliberate or just putting down a marker, however you want to justify it, doesn't really matter. It was exactly the type of challenge that will incense fans of every club.
That type of challenge is regularly referred to as a "potential leg breaker" . because frankly it was.
mis-timed, deliberate or just putting down a marker, however you want to justify it, doesn't really matter. It was exactly the type of challenge that will incense fans of every club.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I'm not furious
It's football.
If I let that get me "furious" then I'd have to seriously look at things.
GrizzlingGammon
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- Dec 15, 2018
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Come Saturday, we'll all be back to being completely oblivious to Crawley and Williams.
Although someone will post an update should Williams end up with shattered ankles and legs after an 'it happens in football' tackle with another enforcer. And we can all say that it couldn't have happened to a better footballer.
Although someone will post an update should Williams end up with shattered ankles and legs after an 'it happens in football' tackle with another enforcer. And we can all say that it couldn't have happened to a better footballer.
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Also he did the same to Enciso.
Assume the people who are saying Williams hasn't got a history of injuring other players haven't seen the video of his assault while playing for Banbury Utd 18 months ago?
SeagullinExile
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In other words, agree with me and my gang or be silent! Comedy gold.
Exactly, all teams have had a player that's done it. We really need to move on, no matter how much people want to argue otherwise, and as frustrating as it is it happened to our new player, the bedwetting is getting beyond embarrassing.
Why ask them? Maupay didn't foul Leno. And despite that, he went to give his wishes. Williams was the opposite. He deliberately hurt Matt, and then laughed about it.
So if you dont get the apologist approach what are you going to do about it? In fact there is nothing anyone can do about it so we carry on crying or move on.
London Irish
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Yes I tend to agree - but it's not really an issue now for Brighton as we won't face them again (excepting a fluke FA Cup draw or both teams making the late stages of the EFL Trophy) but more for Crawley and their manager now.
In Williams' defence, he's never been sent off for Crawley for violent conduct and I'm pretty sure has never injured a player off the pitch before while playing for them. But having seen him play a few times, his tackling technique is questionable - he's often late with tackles and goes in very hard. He was signed from Banbury, who play at the equivalent level of Whitehawk and Lewes, that's where his speed or lack of it comes from. Eventually it was going to hurt someone and now it has.
I think referees are a community and they will now have Williams on their radar after this incident. It's up to the Crawley manager to get the message to him that it will cost Crawley very dearly if they go down to ten. He'll just be under much greater focus.
But not by us as we have our own business to attend to and honestly it will be a bit sad if we pay attention to a 7th level footballer trying to make the step up to the 3rd level.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Yeh, furious is not what i'm feeling either.
I'm feeling sad for Matt and I'm prepared to say that Williams is a shit thug who i'll hope bad things happen to.
Don't see that fury would improve the situation much though
Clive Walker
Stand Or Fall
seen both. Assault is way too much! Both late challenges.
They never bothered with Joey Barton