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Mustafa II

Mustafa II

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A lot of people are still living in the past, at time where as soon as a player hits 30, he begins to decline.

Sports science has come a LONG way. Players often are at their best in their early 30s these days, rather than playing out their final days.

There are countless examples of 35+ world class players, particularly defenders, in the last 20 years.

Hummels will still be a world class player, should he sign for us. Even though he wouldn't play every game, it would still be a massive signing on the pitch.

But like these veteran signings, the importance is just as much within the dressing room. Hummels is a captain and a winner, even Dunky can learn a lot from him.

We should be delighted if this happens.
 






Frutos

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Mustafa II said:
A lot of people are still living in the past, at time where as soon as a player hits 30, he begins to decline.

Sports science has come a LONG way. Players often are at their best in their early 30s these days, rather than playing out their final days.

There are countless examples of 35+ world class players, particularly defenders, in the last 20 years.

Hummels will still be a world class player, should he sign for us. Even though he wouldn't play every game, it would still be a massive signing on the pitch.

But like these veteran signings, the importance is just as much within the dressing room. Hummels is a captain and a winner, even Dunky can learn a lot from him.

We should be delighted if this happens.
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100% agree.
 




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tjg

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It's hard to not want Hummels to come but it would presumably compromise Van Hecke's place in the side which wouldn't be a good thing.
 




Jimmy Grimble

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tjg said:
It's hard to not want Hummels to come but it would presumably compromise Van Hecke's place in the side which wouldn't be a good thing.
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I do wonder how current players feel when new guys who clearly have better pedigree come in.

Does Van Hecke predominantly think ‘what an opportunity for me to learn from a recent great’, or does he think ‘crap, there goes a fair old chunk of my playing minutes’. Probably a bit of both with him.

Webster, however, I’d guess would be more likely to give a ‘FFS’ response.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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tjg said:
It's hard to not want Hummels to come but it would presumably compromise Van Hecke's place in the side which wouldn't be a good thing.
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And we've already blocked him for a year by bringing in Colwill. Again, who is a good player but, was only ever a loan player and for a club who are looking to show a pathway to gaining experience I think wasn't a good move. If we bring in another player in front of him, what's his motivation to stay with us?
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Jimmy Grimble said:
Does Van Hecke predominantly think ‘what an opportunity for me to learn from a recent great’, or does he think ‘crap, there goes a fair old chunk of my playing minutes’. Probably a bit of both with him.
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He's thinking of playing time. 100% The learning stuff is just what they say to put a positive spin on for club interviews.
 








Johnny RoastBeef

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tjg said:
It's hard to not want Hummels to come but it would presumably compromise Van Hecke's place in the side which wouldn't be a good thing.
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A Premier League season lasts 3420 minutes.

Last season JPVH played 2369 minutes (69%)

Dunk played 2868 (84%)

That leaves 47% of the season for Hummels.

Last season he played exactly half the minutes possible in the Bundesliga.

There should be very few worries about anyone missing out.
 




dwayne

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Crazy isn't it, one of the world's most experienced and decorated Central Defenders, and people don't want him because he once said something not agreeable about his club. Baffling.
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Problem is that surely any other club in the EPL would take him apart from maybe city or arse. Would take a minor miracle for him to come to lil old Brighton.
 


jackalbion

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dwayne said:
Problem is that surely any other club in the EPL would take him apart from maybe city or arse. Would take a minor miracle for him to come to lil old Brighton.
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I quite agree, but some people actively don't want him.
 


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jackalbion said:
Crazy isn't it, one of the world's most experienced and decorated Central Defenders, and people don't want him because he once said something not agreeable about his club. Baffling.
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For me its more about the concern for the players we already have. We need to keep improving and we do that by signing better players. Van Hecke will be a better player having learned from one of the worlds best, same for Dunk, same for the whole squad.
 




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chaileyjem

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Nobby Cybergoat said:
And we've already blocked him for a year by bringing in Colwill. Again, who is a good player but, was only ever a loan player and for a club who are looking to show a pathway to gaining experience I think wasn't a good move. If we bring in another player in front of him, what's his motivation to stay with us?
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Up is down and down is up to suggest Albion of all clubs blocks the pathway of players to get minutes. It only takes 1-2 injuries for the cry to go up - our squad depth is too thin etc

It’s a long season, the coach needs options.
It’s a careful balance sure and I guess we’ll settle with 4-5 centre backs - perhaps Igor is off. But Van Hecke (and Dunk) will be fine.
 




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