[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

Thunder Bolt said:

Authorities
The moderators will have a good laugh at that one.

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maltaseagull said:

I meant you. The leading authority on everything .

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Molango's visa said:

You deserve a Duke of Edinburgh award for that reply

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WATFORD zero said:

I know that the EDL organised the Stockport demo with the objective of attacking the local Mosque but I genuinely haven't seen anything about who organised the protest in London and what the objective(s) of the protest were on MSM or anywhere else. Anyone

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Thunder Bolt said:

Silly billy

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maltaseagull said:

Silly old bat?

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cunning fergus said:

I don’t care what Farage says, no more than I do any other politicians and talking heads in the media waffling on about the mentally ill.

It’s the events dear boy, events that are the issue here, those that bend the truth to suit their narrative are on both sides of the fence so I will take my own view of matters.

As referenced in the Huw Edwards case the truth will sneak out eventually, in his case we can now see very clearly that he was not “mentally ill. Those that protected him and prevented the truth escaping are abettors and just as guilty as Edwards.

The perpetrators of very violent stabbing attacks in recent years have had an underlying root cause, we know this is the truth. Time will tell of course whether the stabbing of the soldier and in Southport will be the same. My personal view is they will.

The Government of course wants social peace and stability so it’s in their interests to manage the truth. As the vast majority of us know, politicians lie, it’s what they do, whatever flavour.

This country has changed in my lifetime and regardless wether you see that as good or bad is irrelevant as we are now dealing with events like this that will continue ad infintum, possibly it could get worse.

No politician, and I doubt even Farage would frame these events so negatively, because the truth would be out…..then the political classes and establishment would have to say, yep sorry, we got it wrong, and here’s the (currently politically unacceptable) way we will deal with it.

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Machiavelli said:

You've paid very close attention to the Rivers of Blood speech, and the rest of us know what you are

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Thunder Bolt said:

Yep, that’s me.

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WATFORD zero said:

Some many times, and multiple times for racism, but are still posting their carefully worded little racist rants hinting at what they think (without having the balls to say it) whilst trying to avoid yet another ban for the same thing

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Bry Nylon said:

You were asked only very recently (by another Moderator, not me) to refrain from the amateur sleuthing. Yet here we are again.

Not only does it derail threads, you don’t have access to the data that would show you are invariably wrong. It’s getting tedious now.

Please give it a rest. Thanks.

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The Clamp said:

So we don’t get to find out whodunnit?

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Molango's visa said:

You deserve a Duke of Edinburgh award for that reply

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Triggaaar said:

Yes, the events are what's important. Someone has brutally murdered three children, and severally injured several others. A politician is stirring up racial hatred. Some other people are rioting in the streets and committing hate crimes. Those are the events.




Good, that's what we want.




Who ever thought that he was? No doubt he was suffering from stress etc having been caught doing wrong.




I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying that all stabbings have the same root cause? If so, what is it?



The whole world has changed hugely in your lifetime, so I'm not sure what your point is.




I think knife crime is on the rise, so obviously it's something we want addressed.





I've no idea what you're talking about. Farage can't have got it wrong in the past, because he's never been in power. So what have they got wrong, and how should it be fixed?

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cunning fergus said:

Congratulations, you’ve produced the first post of bovine relativism that fails to understand or recognise what the first principle of ANY responsible national government is……….safeguard the interest of your citizens.

You and your fellow political travellers that relish in the discarding of this principle and want to buy the world a coke with U.K. taxpayers money are responsible for what will be years of civil strife of major and minor effect.

Nothing posted on a parochial premier league team’s message board is going to change that fact, albeit I suspect many of the narcissistic wet mattress brigade with their tens of thousands of posts will disagree.

Empty vessels one and all…………

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carlzeiss said:

The chap that killed the pensioner in Hartlepool was a Moroccan national that had already been refused asylum in Germany
However on arrival in the UK was allowed to stay and claim asylum here for reasons that have never been explained .

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/mp-jill-mortimer-says-asylum-seeker-ahmed-alid-who-murdered-pensioner-should-not-have-been-in-hartlepool-4634136

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LamieRobertson said:

Lol..nothing like disparaging people who THINK differently to you …

On a separate note the snobbery on this thread is amazing ……and for the record it would seem i am now considered far right for supporting PART of the protest in London last night…i mean thats what lazy MSM imply isn’t it …still why am i surprised …time maybe to break the habit of being on a BB

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Bold Seagull said:

We await the IT Consultant’s reply with baited breathe….

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Kinky Gerbil said:

I could think of anything worse than voting for Farage, but people will vote for extremes when they have been let down by those in charge

Blame the politicians, not the the voters.

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cunning fergus said:

To you those are the events you are focusing on and concerned with, to me the genuine “events” are the developing trend of random acts of violence being inflicted on the public by the mentally ill this is not the first murderous attack of children we have experienced, it won’t be the last.

If you want to conflate this murderous attack on children at a dance class with rising levels of “knife crime” that’s your prerogative. You are the first person I have heard make that point, and you may just as well also reference the failure in mental health services in these attacks. I doubt you will be making much sense to the wider public in that regard, but good luck.

For the wider public the underlying root cause is not mental health, nor is it the prevalence of “curved kitchen knives” in shops/internet or kitchens. The politicians, including Farage will not join up the various attacks we have had for very sensible reasons, and in that vacuum the wider public will draw their own conclusions.

To that extent lying politicians (of whatever flavour) and a supine media will continue to trot out the same playbook when these attacks occur, some people will roll their eyes, some people will get angry and some people will unquestionably suck up every last word as if it was the unbridled truth.

We know who they are, they will be on the Sir Huw Edwards thread of various football teams’ message boards up and down the country pontificating how cruel the criticism of him was when he was “mentally ill”. We now know he was a degenerate nonce, the mentally ill are not what they once were.

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