[Albion] Napoli interested in Billy Gilmour Sold 30/08/24

Mancgull · Jul 28, 2024

It seems from the two games in Japan that we are moving towards a more direct/ pressing style and as such I can’t see that it favours Billy.
Shame but he has two more years of his contract left and so an offer of say £15m would give us a nice profit and help with PSR for 2014/15.
Hopefully helps finance the move for Gomez and the Turkish wing back.

Farehamseagull · Jul 28, 2024

kelvinnewman said:
I'm on the same page, but the fact no EPL team has come sniffing after the Napoli bid does make me think maybe he isn't worth as much as we thought...

He is over rated on NSC.

Personally I hope the deal gets done - £12m to £15m I’m not unhappy with. We then have more money to invest in further upgrades.

Really enjoying our transfer work so far this summer.

One Teddy Maybank · Jul 28, 2024

Farehamseagull said:
He is over rated on NSC.

Personally I hope the deal gets done - £12m to £15m I’m not unhappy with. We then have more money to invest in further upgrades.

Really enjoying our transfer work so far this summer.

As per my post, I think he’s worth a bit more but all fair points.

Hoping we strengthen down the spine of the team as well.

fly high · Jul 28, 2024

Mancgull said:
It seems from the two games in Japan that we are moving towards a more direct/ pressing style and as such I can’t see that it favours Billy.
Shame but he has two more years of his contract left and so an offer of say £15m would give us a nice profit and help with PSR for 2024/25.
Hopefully helps finance the move for Gomez and the Turkish wing back.

Corrected the typo.

Johnny RoastBeef · Jul 28, 2024

If the sales of Gilmour, Gross, Sima and Undav allow us to sign Gruda, Gomez and a RB to finish our rebuild, then I'd be a little sad but fairly pleased with our recruitment.

Frankworthington · Jul 28, 2024

Farehamseagull said:
He is over rated on NSC.

Personally I hope the deal gets done - £12m to £15m I’m not unhappy with. We then have more money to invest in further upgrades.

Really enjoying our transfer work so far this summer.

This

Cannot hit a cow's arse with a banjo or tackle. Lots of pretty passing but we have a lot of midfielders, with more to come and our style of play is evolving.

Good luck to the lad

BrickTamland · Jul 28, 2024

Johnny RoastBeef said:
If the sales of Gilmour, Gross, Sima and Undav allow us to sign Gruda, Gomez and a RB to finish our rebuild, then I'd be a little sad but fairly pleased with our recruitment.

100%. Would probably add Moder to the sold list too.

Couldn't Be Hyypia · Jul 28, 2024

Freddo said:
Even £55m would have been a bargain for MacAllister.

But anyway it’s hard to rationalise why the club would do it again this summer, only worse.

Yes, but he could have run down his contract and gone for nothing. Instead he signed a new deal in return for us agreeing to his terms. Win-win.

Couldn't Be Hyypia · Jul 28, 2024

I'll miss WBG. He's a good egg, a trier and is a bit of a terrier.

But he has never quite fulfilled his potential and it seems we are upgrading the squad, so we need to move players on.

Jimmy Grimble · Jul 28, 2024

Farehamseagull said:
He is over rated on NSC.

Personally I hope the deal gets done - £12m to £15m I’m not unhappy with. We then have more money to invest in further upgrades.

Really enjoying our transfer work so far this summer.

I mean this thread clearly shows he’s not overrated. Seems a pretty even split on people who think we should keep him and people who think we should let him go.

I’m very much on the fence because at his age he could get a lot better, but I worry that his physical profile will always limit him. I suspect it very much depends on the system a coach wants to play for Gilmour, which is what separates him from the elite level talent who can work a role in a pretty much any system. That could still come for Gilmour but it’s hard to say.

Deportivo Seagull · Jul 28, 2024

So let me gets this right. WBG was arguably one of our best players last season but now he’s so shit he’s only worth around £12m.
NSC …..

Triggaaar · Jul 28, 2024

A proven PL midfielder for £12-£15m seems pretty cheap to me.

Bozza · Jul 28, 2024

Jimmy Grimble said:
I mean this thread clearly shows he’s not overrated. Seems a pretty even split on people who think we should keep him and people who think we should let him go.

I’m very much on the fence because at his age he could get a lot better, but I worry that his physical profile will always limit him. I suspect it very much depends on the system a coach wants to play for Gilmour, which is what separates him from the elite level talent who can work a role in a pretty much any system. That could still come for Gilmour but it’s hard to say.

I think there's a halfway house, which is where I reside...

He's a good squad player, and I'd gladly keep him for that, but I think a club with our aspirations needs more from a starting central midfielder.

As I said on page 1, suggestions he's a £50-60m player are just fanciful, but I'm slightly surprised that he doesn't seem to be in the £20m range. However, it's also interesting that there doesn't seem to be any bottom-half Premier League clubs beating down our door for him at the mooted valuation.

Hugo Rune · Jul 28, 2024

Bozza said:
I think there's a halfway house, which is where I reside...

He's a good squad player, and I'd gladly keep him for that, but I think a club with our aspirations needs more from a starting central midfielder.

As I said on page 1, suggestions he's a £50-60m player are just fanciful, but I'm slightly surprised that he doesn't seem to be in the £20m range. However, it's also interesting that there doesn't seem to be any bottom-half Premier League clubs beating down our door for him at the mooted valuation.

I suspect they wouldn’t receive the ‘he won’t be playing against us’ discount. I think the club would surely stick another £5m - £10m on the price if one of our rivals were interested.

Jimmy Grimble · Jul 28, 2024

Bozza said:
I think there's a halfway house, which is where I reside...

He's a good squad player, and I'd gladly keep him for that, but I think a club with our aspirations needs more from a starting central midfielder.

As I said on page 1, suggestions he's a £50-60m player are just fanciful, but I'm slightly surprised that he doesn't seem to be in the £20m range. However, it's also interesting that there doesn't seem to be any bottom-half Premier League clubs beating down our door for him at the mooted valuation.

As I’ve said before, it’s mostly because of his physical profile. You have to be very good to get away with being small and slow whilst having no demonstrative attacking output in the Premier League.

Teams battling to stay up will think they can’t really afford a player like Gilmour.

Farehamseagull · Jul 28, 2024

Deportivo Seagull said:
So let me gets this right. WBG was arguably one of our best players last season but now he’s so shit he’s only worth around £12m.
NSC …..

£12m according to widely circulated media reports is around the price we’re looking at, that’s not NSC.

And definitely arguable he was one of our best players, to me he was a weak link. The club are clearly not too concerned about losing him either.

It was a regular contradiction on here last season that it was said one of the main reasons we weren’t as good as the season before was that our central midfield was nowhere near as good and yet Gilmour and Gross, our central midfield, were regularly praised as being our best players. And whilst for the first two thirds of the season, Gross deserved that, Gilmour’s contribution was always hugely over praised just because he looks a bit busy on the pitch but his output is actually poor. He’s a distinctly average player.

I will miss Gross as he has been a wonderful player for us but his form deserted him at the end of the season, he’s now 33 and deserves his chance with Dortmund. I’m happy for both him and Gilmour to go. Our centre midfield was a real problem for us last season, Gilmour was a major part of that problem, we needed to make changes and we clearly are.

Really looking forward to seeing our revamped, upgraded and more physical central midfield next season.

GT49er · Jul 28, 2024

Farehamseagull said:
£12m according to widely circulated media reports is around the price we’re looking at, that’s not NSC.

And definitely arguable he was one of our best players, to me he was a weak link. The club are clearly not too concerned about losing him either.

It was a regular contradiction on here last season that it was said one of the main reasons we weren’t as good as the season before was that our central midfield was nowhere near as good and yet Gilmour and Gross, our central midfield, were regularly praised as being our best players. And whilst for the first two thirds of the season, Gross deserved that, Gilmour’s contribution was always hugely over praised just because he looks a bit busy on the pitch but his output is actually poor. He’s a distinctly average player.

I will miss Gross as he has been a wonderful player but his form deserted him at the end of the season, he’s now 33 and deserves his chance with Dortmund. I’m happy for both him and Gilmour to go.

Really looking forward to seeing our revamped, upgraded and more physical central midfield next season.

No contradiction. Gross and WBG could be the best players in the team, but of course the midfield was weaker than the season before. No team could lose Caicedo and Mac Allister (and Mwepu) from their midfield without making it weaker!

Weststander · Jul 28, 2024

Farehamseagull said:
£12m according to widely circulated media reports is around the price we’re looking at, that’s not NSC.

And definitely arguable he was one of our best players, to me he was a weak link. The club are clearly not too concerned about losing him either.

It was a regular contradiction on here last season that it was said one of the main reasons we weren’t as good as the season before was that our central midfield was nowhere near as good and yet Gilmour and Gross, our central midfield, were regularly praised as being our best players. And whilst for the first two thirds of the season, Gross deserved that, Gilmour’s contribution was always hugely over praised just because he looks a bit busy on the pitch but his output is actually poor. He’s a distinctly average player.

I will miss Gross as he has been a wonderful player but his form deserted him at the end of the season, he’s now 33 and deserves his chance with Dortmund. I’m happy for both him and Gilmour to go.

Really looking forward to seeing our revamped, upgraded and more physical central midfield next season.

In the PL we were largely indifferent to rubbish in CM last season, often overrun, out fought out and outpaced. Our central defenders had little protection. Yet the player with 0 goals and 3 assists over 2 seasons is lauded. It doesn’t add up.

Weststander · Jul 28, 2024

GT49er said:
No contradiction. Gross and WBG could be the best players in the team, but of course the midfield was weaker than the season before. No team could lose Caicedo and Mac Allister (and Mwepu) from their midfield without making it weaker!

Our CM last season was poor. Teams like Fulham, Everton, Luton were able to take the p.

spence · Jul 28, 2024

Weststander said:
In the PL we were largely indifferent to rubbish in CM last season, often overrun, out fought out and outpaced. Our central defenders had little protection. Yet the player with 0 goals and 3 assists over 2 seasons is lauded. It doesn’t add up.

This is where I'm at. I personally think we can improve on him. At this moment he is probably one of our first choice midfielders.

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