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[Football] Everton, will they ever learn?



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The Colonel

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If you just look at players as figures on the balance sheet, this particular asset is currently worth £80m but by 2027 (when his current contract expires) he'll be worth £0. If Everton think that paying him an extra £5m a year (on top of his current salary) protects and possibly enhances the value of their asset, strengthens their hand in any future transfer negotiations and eliminates the possibility of losing him for £0 in 2027 then it's actually a sound business decision isn't it?
 






Couldn't Be Hyypia

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The Colonel said:
If you just look at players as figures on the balance sheet, this particular asset is currently worth £80m but by 2027 (when his current contract expires) he'll be worth £0. If Everton think that paying him an extra £5m a year (on top of his current salary) protects and possibly enhances the value of their asset, strengthens their hand in any future transfer negotiations and eliminates the possibility of losing him for £0 in 2027 then it's actually a sound business decision isn't it?
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:nono:
 


mejonaNO12 aka riskit

mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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The Colonel said:
If you just look at players as figures on the balance sheet, this particular asset is currently worth £80m but by 2027
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Isn't that only true if they buy him for £80m, Then you amortise that fee over the value of the contract, i.e decresing his value of £80m by 1/4 every year of a 4 year contract.

He joined in 2020 so his value on the books may already be fully amortised based on the original contract length linked to the transfer fee paid. Anything received on him now would be pure profit as far as I understand it.
 










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Milano

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The Colonel said:
If you just look at players as figures on the balance sheet, this particular asset is currently worth £80m but by 2027 (when his current contract expires) he'll be worth £0. If Everton think that paying him an extra £5m a year (on top of his current salary) protects and possibly enhances the value of their asset, strengthens their hand in any future transfer negotiations and eliminates the possibility of losing him for £0 in 2027 then it's actually a sound business decision isn't it?
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I don't know what the average wage is at Everton but this would lead to a queue of other players wanting parity. As I said last season was his breakthrough season, madness that he now wants a x400% pay rise.
This is why BHA on the whole control salary caps so tightly, as unless you're an oil funded bottomless pit then it's a race into administration.
 






fly high

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el punal said:
It’s Branthwaite by the way. :thumbsup:

Agents do what agents do and unfortunately they are greedy leeches living off the success of their clients (players). Having said that if you were headhunted by a firm who were going to quadruple your wages you’d be hard pushed to turn it down. Branthwaite in this case is saying to Everton I would like to stay but can you match their offer as it’s too good to turn down. There is no room for sentiment in football except with the fans.
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A standard way to get a pay rise, say you have an offer at a higher salary but you like working for them so you want them to match it & you'll happily stay.
 


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mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
Isn't that only true if they buy him for £80m, Then you amortise that fee over the value of the contract, i.e decresing his value of £80m by 1/4 every year of a 4 year contract.

He joined in 2020 so his value on the books may already be fully amortised based on the original contract length linked to the transfer fee paid. Anything received on him now would be pure profit as far as I understand it.
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You're right. My mistake. But he must still sit somewhere as £80m worth of stock that could be sold?
 




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Thread title is a bit misleading. There's no indication that they have or will offer that wage to him. Just some paper gossip.
 


Nathan

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The Colonel said:
If you just look at players as figures on the balance sheet, this particular asset is currently worth £80m but by 2027 (when his current contract expires) he'll be worth £0. If Everton think that paying him an extra £5m a year (on top of his current salary) protects and possibly enhances the value of their asset, strengthens their hand in any future transfer negotiations and eliminates the possibility of losing him for £0 in 2027 then it's actually a sound business decision isn't it?
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Not if you can't afford to pay an extra £5m a year.
 


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severnside gull

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Kinky Gerbil said:
Just seen Onana has gone to Villa.

Dyche won't stick around much longer.
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Doubt he will leave. Can’t see anyone in the EPL employing him before Spring 2025 and then only a club threatened with relegation.
Fans pay a lot of money and increasingly want entertainment while Dyche is too old-school focussed on grinding out results
 




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severnside gull said:
Doubt he will leave. Can’t see anyone in the EPL employing him before Spring 2025 and then only a club threatened with relegation.
Fans pay a lot of money and increasingly want entertainment while Dyche is too old-school focussed on grinding out results
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I'd like to see what Dyche could do with money and actual attackers.
 


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Well, they're not going to keep him if there's no financial reason to do so. They've learned... a little late.
Three out of Everton, Nottingham, Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester are going down and maybe their luck has run out now.
 


jcdenton08

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To answer the question in the thread title, short answer “no”.

Long answer, “noooooooooooooooooo”
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

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Even I, as a supposed hard-left trained Marxist, can't understand why people are complaining about agents. There are transactional relationships between clubs and players, and both employ agents as they see fit.

I can't blame players for employing someone to max up their income. And I can't blame clubs for trying to singe players o the cheap. That's how market economics works.

What do people want? A maximum wage (implemented worldwide - how?)? A ban on 'representation'? Think again.

I would start getting agitated only if a player under contract 'downs tools'. That's breach of contract and there is no reason why it can't be written into contracts that such behavior would result in a massive financial penalty (not simply cessation of payment or cancellation of the contract - a want-away player won't mind that at all.

That said how often do we see this? Occasionally a player who 'misses out' on a contract misses the next game due to 'head not right'. Fine. But aside from that Bogarde oaf at Chelsea (and he was simply seeing out his contract because he was an arsehole) I can't remember any player 'downing tools' for a sustained period.

And call me naïve but I suspect it may be possible that some players have a sense of professional pride. Could it be true? ???
 






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Harry Wilson's tackle said:
But aside from that Bogarde oaf at Chelsea (and he was simply seeing out his contract because he was an arsehole) I can't remember any player 'downing tools' for a sustained period.
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That's because a club moves them on quickly (see Cucu, Sanchez, Caicedo, Trossard etc) - any sign of downing tools and they're out the door.

What was the name of that striker at Forest who, literally did go on strike? He showed the way to engineer a way out
 


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