That continued for many years...
Christ.
That continued for many years...
I agree, I think his football is too intricate to be played by the national team without day in day out training in different formations.I'm definitely not on message with NSC over Potter - I quite like him - but I don't see him as an England manager; the perfect job for him was a hands-on day to day long term development project ..................................
..................like the one he had at Brighton! His loss, IMHO!
Seeing as England squeaked past Slovakia and Switzerland, it could be a perfect match.If it could work then his tactical mouse would be useful...
Spain manage it.I agree, I think his football is too intricate to be played by the national team without day in day out training in different formations.
If it could work then his tactical mouse would be useful but his man management has not been tested with elite players.
I too quite like him and wish him luck whenever he gets back into management.
The players he has it as his disposal deserve more than playing some kind of hybrid Hughton football. The fact the football hasn’t moved on from the Wembley final against an ageing Italy team is more the problem with Southgate’s tactics, it didn’t win a final then why would it now?What I find really strange is how many people are unwilling to give Southgate the respect he deserves or any credit at all.
No one is claiming or has ever claimed that he is a tactical genius or revolutionary.
However, he is the second most successful manager in England's history, and if he wins the final on Sunday he'll be our most successfulS so despite his tactical limitations he is clearly doing something right. Even if it's just something as simple as creating positive, inclusive, harmonious atmosphere around the squad.
Before Southgate we'd never made four quarter finals in a row. We've done that and then some.
Before Southgate we'd played in a total of three semi finals. Under Southgate we've played three semi finals in four tournaments.
Before Southgate we'd played in one final, 50 odd years previously. Under Southgate we've made two finals in four tournaments.
Before Southgate the best we could expect was a quarter final. Under Southgate that's the minimum.
Then there are the smaller accomplishments like winning penalty shoot outs, the sheer number of knockout wins( I'm not even including penalties) under him - 7 in 4 tournaments compared to 6 in the previous 25 (some of which we didn't even qualify for - another thing we don't need to worry about under the current manager), our first ever win on foreign soil against major opposition etc etc
There comes a point where you just have to say fair play he's doing something right but otherwise intelligent, rational people won't. They just keep doubling down on their criticisms even though it makes them look ridiculous.
Different recollection to mine.Agreed. Venables was only ever in charge for 5 competitive games for England, all of them at Wembley. And we were pretty crap in most of them.
Sorry Easy, just seen this……. But no…vs Switzerland - crap
vs Scotch - crap (till Gascoigne)
vs Holland- great
vs Spain - crap, and lucky
vs Germany - great
Thats 3 out of 5 craps, which equals....mostly crap. But it was fun.
Relax, the FA want him to stay...
The whole tournament has stunk reallyIf we beat Spain on Sunday then fair enough. We've stank the tournament out apart from against the Dutch and some will argue we got lucky with the pen as well as it should've been a Dutch corner instead of goal kick which we went up other end and scored the winner! Its the quality we've got that's got us through, not the tactics of Gareth. Beat Spain and then we'll see if critics shut up!
Look at Southgates last 6.vs Switzerland - crap
vs Scotch - crap (till Gascoigne)
vs Holland- great
vs Spain - crap, and lucky
vs Germany - great
Thats 3 out of 5 craps, which equals....mostly crap. But it was fun.
or WDDWWWLook at Southgates last 6.
Slovenia crap
Denmark crap
Serbia crap
Slovakia crap
Switzerland crap
Netherlands Acceptable.
Then there are the smaller accomplishments like winning penalty shoot outs
There comes a point where you just have to say fair play he's doing something right
I can't speak for everyone else, but as your post came immediately after mine I felt it might be worth clearing up a few things.What I find really strange is how many people are unwilling to give Southgate the respect he deserves or any credit at all.
No one is claiming or has ever claimed that he is a tactical genius or revolutionary.
However, he is the second most successful manager in England's history, and if he wins the final on Sunday he'll be our most successfulS so despite his tactical limitations he is clearly doing something right. Even if it's just something as simple as creating positive, inclusive, harmonious atmosphere around the squad.
Before Southgate we'd never made four quarter finals in a row. We've done that and then some.
Before Southgate we'd played in a total of three semi finals. Under Southgate we've played three semi finals in four tournaments.
Before Southgate we'd played in one final, 50 odd years previously. Under Southgate we've made two finals in four tournaments.
Before Southgate the best we could expect was a quarter final. Under Southgate that's the minimum.
Then there are the smaller accomplishments like winning penalty shoot outs, the sheer number of knockout wins( I'm not even including penalties) under him - 7 in 4 tournaments compared to 6 in the previous 25 (some of which we didn't even qualify for - another thing we don't need to worry about under the current manager), our first ever win on foreign soil against major opposition etc etc
There comes a point where you just have to say fair play he's doing something right but otherwise intelligent, rational people won't. They just keep doubling down on their criticisms even though it makes them look ridiculous.