SassyWhat was confusing was having a perfectly good 2024 thread, but for some obscure reason, people choosing to post current stuff in a four year old thread.
This is the perfectly good 2024 thread - so I have merged your unnecessary new thread into it
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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris
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Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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I'm not interested in betting on it, nor do I take much notice of what bookies are saying, such is their volatility. I just think that Trump being the next president is not the cast-iron guarantee that people are suggesting
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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i too only take half notice of bookies, but the odds far out on a two horse race. there is other noise and news, this just encapsulates it in to a neat reference point. Biden is going to lose, the Democrats are concerned how much impact that will have on congressional elections, they want to see him out to limit that damage.I'm not interested in betting on it, nor do I take much notice of what bookies are saying, such is their volatility. I just think that Trump being the next president is not the cast-iron guarantee that people are suggesting
That's throwing money away.
Either Biden steps down or Trump wins or both. Biden wins is fantasy.
- Oct 12, 2022
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I get where you’re coming from, but if you’d suggested to a French citizen ahead of their vote that the leftist coalition would beat the far-right coalition, then you’d have received similar ridicule. It can happen.
I too feel that the best course would be for Biden to step down, but I can still see a scenario where (when the day for voting arrives) “undecided” voters come out against giving Trump a second term. Not because of a love for Biden, but through a fear of, or unwillingness to facilitate, “Trump 2.”
Other scenarios exist. Trump’s rallies are not drawing the sort of crowds they were a few years ago, and should that trend carry through to the polling booth, then we could see both candidates get a lower number of votes cast for them. I can fully understand a lack of enthusiasm on the part of American voters.
Trump victory likely, but not certain is how I see it, perhaps worth a small flutter.
nwgull
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BetFair exchange currently has Harris at shorter odds to win the election than Biden - 7.6 versus 9.4 - so not really a two-horse race, albeit that Trump is clear odds-on favourite.
Clooney sinks knife into Biden... it is only getting worse.
Biden's bruising day sinks hopes Democrats will move on
A growing chorus from the US president's party means he is unlikely to steady his campaign this week and perhaps ever.
www.bbc.co.uk
Amazes me how the Democrats have failed to find a viable candidate among their many senators and congressmen - just needed to find one thirty or forty years younger than Biden, who really looks past it now.
America now seems to have the job of trying to vote in the least dreadful candidate for the presidency - not a good prospect.
America now seems to have the job of trying to vote in the least dreadful candidate for the presidency - not a good prospect.
The 2024 thread was not on the NSC front page. I did look for one, even using the search function, but what came up was the old one. So I used that rather than make a new one.What was confusing was having a perfectly good 2024 thread, but for some obscure reason, people choosing to post current stuff in a four year old thread.
This is the perfectly good 2024 thread - so I have merged your unnecessary new thread into it
It is in the gift of moderators to merge my needless thread with the existent 2024 one (that I could not fine). Instead I was moaned at for using the 2020 thread (implying I should create a new one, which I did) <sigh>
I am please a moderator has finally merged the two 2024 threads.
Realistically to replace Biden he has to stand down. He can only be pushed out by quite aggressive action from within the party. And it can't be done overnight. And if it fails due to large amounts of residual support for Biden then the electoral push is finished (you can't win votes when your own party has tried to boot you out).
The Republicans had an equivalent dilemma with the crook Trump, but decided to go the 'easy' route and back Trump. They did not have the courage that the tory PPL had when defenestrating Johnson. And one might add that didn't exactly pan out well for them....
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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this is like backing a horse that's at the same stable, not intended to run. illustrates how poor it looks for Biden that the market would prefer another runner.
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Mellor 3 Ward 4
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If Biden walks, then the Democrats win.I'm not interested in betting on it, nor do I take much notice of what bookies are saying, such is their volatility. I just think that Trump being the next president is not the cast-iron guarantee that people are suggesting
If he stays, Trump wins - it's that simple.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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Sorry, I'll quantify that - If Biden walks - and it's not Harris who runs - the Democrats win.
You seem certain?
Perhaps gorgeous George should put himself up for selection?Clooney sinks knife into Biden... it is only getting worse.
Biden's bruising day sinks hopes Democrats will move on
A growing chorus from the US president's party means he is unlikely to steady his campaign this week and perhaps ever.www.bbc.co.uk
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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It's really not.
StonehamPark
#Brighton-Nil
Name the replacement/s that would beat Trump and motivate voters more than Biden?
What about ‘Crooked’ Hillary?
Biden’s unscripted prezza begins in about an hour. The general unwritten rule in politics is that when the politician becomes the story rather than the issues, then it’s game up and time to exit stage left.
I can’t fathom why Biden can’t or won’t accept this. He’s finished.
I can’t fathom why Biden can’t or won’t accept this. He’s finished.
¡Cereal Killer!
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Biden has just called Zelenskyi Putin..... he's f^ucked....
- Oct 20, 2022
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O.M.G.
Biden: “ I now hand you over to the President of Ukraine, President Putin”
After being prompted by aides, he says “I mean President Zelenskyy “
There is no fcuking way he will survive a gaffe like that, Trump will rip him to shreds as will the press. This is a man with his hands on the nuclear football. “Ooops, I meant fire at Russia not France”
Biden: “ I now hand you over to the President of Ukraine, President Putin”
After being prompted by aides, he says “I mean President Zelenskyy “
There is no fcuking way he will survive a gaffe like that, Trump will rip him to shreds as will the press. This is a man with his hands on the nuclear football. “Ooops, I meant fire at Russia not France”