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Right Brain Ronnie

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Feb 20, 2023
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This was a good move, keeping Thornberry well out of the limelight, (y)I bet she looks like she's chewing a wasp.......oh she often does!
So the immigrants will now go straight back to hotels at everyone's cost.(n)
No wonder labour got the lowest ever vote share.......the country are watching you labour. Forget the willy waving flying around Britain Mr Starmer, speak to them over teams.
Wasting money and time which we can I'll afford.(n)
We are watching and judging, can he hack it or will Rainer be in within a year? There is going to be so much in fighting very soon, too many seats could bring them down after the honeymoon.
 
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crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,917
Lyme Regis
I like Peter Kyle, but the ham-fisted attempt of him and his lackey to ambush Martin Brundle on the pre-race grid walk was super cringe.
I saw this too, it was absolutely horrific, Brundle didn't seem to take kindly to it either.
 


Beanstalk

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2017
2,929
London
Interesting - So Income tax not ruled out???
Surprising.
They have ruled out increasing income tax. They have also however, said that they are not going to raise the income tax thresholds until 2028 at least. This will mean, as wages and prices rise with inflation, the point in which we pay tax will not. It's a clever middle ground that avoids directly hurting people in the immediate (they don't earn more but pay more tax), but asks them to realistically pay a bit more as they earn more sooner.

The more interesting caveat than you or I paying a little more a little sooner, is the following:

One group who may be more significantly affected by a Labour proposal concerning income tax is private equity fund managers. Under what Labour describes as ‘closing a loophole’, the carried interest of private equity fund managers which is currently charged to capital gains tax (CGT), will instead be charged to income tax.

Example:

Ellie is an additional rate English taxpayer and receives carried interest of £500,000.
If the interest is taxable as a capital gain Ellie will pay CGT of £140,000 (28% on £500,000).
If the interest is instead taxable as income Ellie will pay income tax and National Insurance of £235,000 (45% tax and 2% National Insurance on £500,000).
 




Pinkie Brown

Wir Sind das Volk
Sep 5, 2007
3,623
Neues Zeitalter DDR 🇩🇪
Without a hint of irony the Fail publishes a guide for its readership to escape 'Keirs Britain'. So a guide to becoming an economic migrant. The type of individual they hate coming to Britain.

Given the average age demographic of its readership there is next to zero chance to them getting into any of the countries suggested unless they have very deep pockets for one of those golden visa type countries. Another snag they have overlooked. Anyone of or near pensionable age considering moving to the likes of Australia, NZ, Canada, their state pensions would be frozen at the rate it was paid when leaving the UK. Such incidentals as having your state pension frozen at circa £221 a week for eternity until you depart this world is a detail they fail to mention. Facts and the Daily Mail have always been incidental.

 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
61,749
The Fatherland
Not easy at all. Their demands cannot be afforded nor can the precedent be set, whilst Starmer also needs to demonstrate that he is strong enough to stand up to the unions. However, the doctors will be expecting to get close to the deal they want now the tories have been routed.

If, but equally importantly how, Starmer resolves this dispute could define the next 5 years for, from his perspective, better or for worse.

No pressure then!
Both sides have said they're willing to sit around a table and negotiate. There's will from both sides to resolve this which is a significant change. Not easy, but not insurmountable either. If both sides are realistic, willing and act like grown ups....which they appear to be doing. ...this will get done.
 




Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
451
Both sides have said they're willing to sit around a table and negotiate. There's will from both sides to resolve this which is a significant change. Not easy, but not insurmountable either. If both sides are realistic, willing and act like grown ups....which they appear to be doing. ...this will get done.
I think it will get settled now. The whole country and beyond has known for the last year or two that a Labour government was incoming at some point. The Conservatives were trying to settle the dispute without paying up, so obviously that wasn't going to work. The reality is that the Union were waiting for the new Government to sweep into power and then they can settle the dispute, knowing that the agreement is going to last because this government will be in power for at least 5 years but history shows us it will probably be 10.
 


Dick Swiveller

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Sep 9, 2011
9,415
We need a portmanteau for whining Tory supporters who aren't happy with the will of the people. And then cross reference them with the people who used remoaners all the time. Any ideas?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
61,749
The Fatherland
We need a portmanteau for whining Tory supporters who aren't happy with the will of the people. And then cross reference them with the people who used remoaners all the time. Any ideas?
****s?
 




Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,694
West Sussex
We need a portmanteau for whining Tory supporters who aren't happy with the will of the people. And then cross reference them with the people who used remoaners all the time. Any ideas?

Are you talking about references to 'Loveless Landslide', ‘Super meh-jority’, 'Fewer than Corbyn' or '20% landslide' etc...

I for one am looking forward to the End of the era of noisy performance, and a politics which treads more lightly on our lives which the current make-up of the HoC (perhaps apart from Farage) should allow.
 




Surrey Phil

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Aug 3, 2010
1,521
It was time for change which the country badly needed. i don’t like references though to the “will of the people” as we have to accept Labour only got a third of the vote and that doesn’t include the 40% who didn’t vote.
 




Right Brain Ronnie

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Feb 20, 2023
520
North of North


Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
1,973
I don’t reckon they look that bad, just call them ‘artisan’.😉👍
Good plan! The guy across the road has a coffee van, I can sell them to him for £2 each & he can sell them for £3.50 from his van. Oooo that's some economic growth, Starmer in! 😂
 


Titanic

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Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,694
West Sussex
Blimey.... didn't take long for the BBC to wade into the new Chancellor. What happened to the honeymoon?
 






Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
12,154
Blimey.... didn't take long for the BBC to wade into the new Chancellor. What happened to the honeymoon?
No surprises from the BBC (British Broadcasting Conservatives).... LK is going to be particularly salty all the time her team are out of government.
 




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