I don't think the violent extremes have much to do with the left/right wing divide.
Although happily it's rare, we could find cases from all over the country from all political sides over the last however many years. It's all totally unacceptable.
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[News] Poster boy Tory attacked in Sompting
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Although happily it's rare, we could find cases from all over the country from all political sides over the last however many years. It's all totally unacceptable.
Depends, was it Timmy?What ever your political slant, surely no one can think this is alright?
It's what makes our country so scummy.
Worthing and Shoreham: Councillor attacked while putting up poster
The councillor was attacked while putting up the poster for the Conservative candidate.www.bbc.co.uk
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
Not by their supporters.
On social media there are 1000s of people who are genuinely obsessed with GTTO, f**k the Tories etc. They're re being fed a diet of hate, day in and day out.
I'm not surprised someone has been enboldened to cross the line.
- Oct 17, 2008
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This is where I’m at.
The right getting extremely angry on here from the off, in anticipation of some kind of lefty defence of this alleged attack.
Calm down dears, I doubt you’ll find anyone defending this behaviour.
Calm down dears, I doubt you’ll find anyone defending this behaviour.
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- Oct 17, 2008
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Thoughts @
I’m very angry and I’m certainly not “the right”. Like I said repeatedly in the Farage milkshake thread, I just don’t want to see this Neanderthal shit full stop.
The right (particularly the OP) throwing about a lot of assumptions, too.
For starter's unless I have missed some reporting about this case, nowhere has a motive been proven, or even explicitly suggested. The report details how the victim was attacked whilst erecting the poster - not that he was necessarily attacked BECAUSE he was erecting the poster. The latter seems likely, of course, but it would be better to know more, before starting an internet crusade bemoaning the hateful left.
The attacker might know the victim personally, and have any manner of grievance, entirely unconnected to politics for all we yet know.
Or if the crime were indeed politically motivated, why the assumption the attacker is not an angry (further)-right supporter?
- Oct 17, 2008
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Just on the final point there, I don’t agree with that either and again, the punishment should be the same - very severe as what a tiny, minuscule minority of idiots are attempting to do is interrupt the democratic process.
I don’t want members of ANY political party being assaulted for legally participating in democracy.
This is to me a philosophical issue of democracy.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
hopefully the old chap is ok and the prick responsible is dealt with.
Sadly though I‘m not surprised. This IMHO is what happens when you have a government and some political elements that have no morals and exhibit the behaviours of a chav. The rhetoric (even before covid) has antagonistic, deliberately confrontational and in a number of cases targeted at various groups. You only have to look at the Tory campaign in the last two weeks to see how badly behaved they are.
This year is the first time I’ve seen Tory party posters defaced and it reflects just how hacked off people are.
Sadly though I‘m not surprised. This IMHO is what happens when you have a government and some political elements that have no morals and exhibit the behaviours of a chav. The rhetoric (even before covid) has antagonistic, deliberately confrontational and in a number of cases targeted at various groups. You only have to look at the Tory campaign in the last two weeks to see how badly behaved they are.
This year is the first time I’ve seen Tory party posters defaced and it reflects just how hacked off people are.
thedonkeycentrehalf
Moved back to wear the gloves (again)
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Driving around Worthing over the last couple of days, there seem to be a lot of Reform posters etc that seem to have been put up over the top of Conservative ones. They are also on some bus stops which is probably not authorised. All seems a little desperate but then when you consider the style of the leader, not surprising.
Right Brain Ronnie
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Assumptions I hear you say....this is the BBC reporting.
You have thrown a few assumption yourself in there. Do you condone this behaviour then?
I hope you have a good alibi and wasn't in Sompting on Saturday!
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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I don't favour any 'side' but my God I can't wait for all this shit to be over on Friday (before it all starts all over again).
Politics really does bring out the worst in people, doesn't it?
Politics really does bring out the worst in people, doesn't it?
The BBC reporting WHAT, though? The BBC report that you posted, certainly doesn't include the details on political allegiance or motive that you have assumed.
Only to label yourself as on the 'right'. Fair enough, I would suggest, given that you've set out your voting intentions in your post.
And if you took the content of my reply to in any way condone the violence, then I don't think its worth continuing any attempt at meaningful discussion.
aftershavedave
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Accepting that this is very unacceptable behaviour, it does seem a little odd that Right Brain has taken today to ramp up his post-count. I do sincerely hope that this isn't a Tim Hodges nth account
Bob!
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- Jul 5, 2003
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So, no assumptions in your post then?
I didn't see the BBC reporting that the lefties were responsible for this?
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He should have just removed the poster as Liz Truss supporters are doing to the ex-Tory independent candidate up here
Tory Councillor at home recovering after a knock on the head - probably more to the story I suspect, there always is with these things.
Edit - you are right about one thing though - it’s not acceptable - people have become more reticent over the years to openly displaying their affiliation to a political party (especially Tory voters ) - I remember walking down streets in my youth and seeing posters in nearly every window in general election periods - guess people don’t want a brick through the window for displaying a Tory or Reform poster these days (or any other Party but especially those two who engender such a vitriolic response in some people). I had a Labour Party poster in my window at one of our last local elections and my UKIP Candidate neighbour blocked my drive with his van every morning for a month and stuck a massive hardboard UKIP poster facing my front window - sometimes it’s not worth the hassle.
Silencing debate by bullying others others verbally or physically is not acceptable and yes, undemocratic.
James Moore: Where have all the political posters gone? Fear is the real reason voters won’t display them
I used to happily celebrate my support during a general election with a poster in my window. Not anymore. We need to get back to a place where we can publicly disagree without risk to our homes or bodies
www.independent.co.uk
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Just a bit of banter mate. Don't be such a snowflake.
Exactly. If it was a political attack (which is probably, although not definitely, the case), then it is indefensible, period. However, yes, my money is on it being a Reform supporter attacking a Tory for not being sufficiently right-wing.
This is certainly not something that's in any way acceptable, but I won't be casting aspersions as to the political/personal leanings of the perpetrator until it is officially confirmed.
It just smells a bit 'obvious' to me, but time will tell.
It just smells a bit 'obvious' to me, but time will tell.