zero drink drive policy announced, but just for young drivers?

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bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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All for one ect. Young drivers are more likely to have an accident yes, but that's more because they lack experience.
 


Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
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Brighton
Should be zero for all drivers,
Absolutely no reason for it,
Would stop all these drivers saying " just one won't hurt will it "
 


British Bulldog

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Feb 6, 2006
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It's about time it was made zero level across the board and then there's no confusion about what you can and cant have, setting different levels for different ages just complicates things even more.
 


dougdeep

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May 9, 2004
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Alcohol is present in lots of things, like medicines for example. A zero limit would cause more problems than it cured.
 




Marc

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Jul 6, 2003
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zero limit would mean no driving after drinking for 48hours+ for some people!
 


Kaiser_Soze

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Apr 14, 2008
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Dougdeep and Marc are exactly right. It would be impossible to have a zero limit.

Sadly its more about attitude than experience. I only passed my driving test 3 months ago but at 24 I have a very different outlook to drinking and driving and indeed driving in general to my mates that passed at 17.
 


Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee

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Jul 25, 2005
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the problem with the '2 pint limit' is that no one person has the same tolerance to alcohol. i know of a person who, if they drank 2 pints would be incapable of walking let alone driving.

i think there should be a no drink policy. just my opinion like, as there's no excuse to do it?
 




Marc

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Jul 6, 2003
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the problem with the '2 pint limit' is that no one person has the same tolerance to alcohol. i know of a person who, if they drank 2 pints would be incapable of walking let alone driving.

i think there should be a no drink policy. just my opinion like, as there's no excuse to do it?

like I said though, go out friday night and some people would still have alcohol in their systems monday morning...meaning they'd get points & a fine or a total ban!
rubbish idea IMO
 


British Bulldog

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Feb 6, 2006
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Alcohol is present in lots of things, like medicines for example. A zero limit would cause more problems than it cured.

If they set the limit of alcohol in your blood at say 5mg it would make allowances for things like medication.
 


Kaiser_Soze

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Apr 14, 2008
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That would then mean that every person they nick for being over would have to have a blood test. That would mean waiting for a doctor to come out. In busy parts like south London it can take hours to get a doctor. Getting him to blood test every person nicked (and it will be a lot if you have zero tolerance) will be ineffective time wise and damn expensive. Every call out is £150!
 




Mar 13, 2008
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Ok if it is at zero. What happens if you go out drinking, you have 1/2 pints. Then the next morning, or the morning after next, you have to drive to work. Oh wait you cant as you are over the limit. Hardly fair is it?? 1/2 pints 1/2 nights before and you cant drive.
 


British Bulldog

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Feb 6, 2006
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Ok if it is at zero. What happens if you go out drinking, you have 1 pint. Then the next morning you have to drive to work. Oh wait you cant as you are over the limit. Hardly fair is it?? 1 pint the night before and you cant drive.

Unless it's a pint of vodka your drinking you would'nt be over the limit the next morning.
 


Gully

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Apr 24, 2004
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Way out west
the problem with the '2 pint limit' is that no one person has the same tolerance to alcohol. i know of a person who, if they drank 2 pints would be incapable of walking let alone driving.

i think there should be a no drink policy. just my opinion like, as there's no excuse to do it?

Fair comment GD, if I had 2 pints I would probably struggle to recognise a car...let alone drive one!!!

The zero limit is a good idea in principle, but many people produce a small amount of alcohol naturally...maybe if the limit were set at something like 10mg, rather than the current limit (which I believe to be something like 35mg), thus someone who had taken some form of medicine or merely used a mouthwash containing alcohol would not be considered over the limit.

Anything that removes the knob-heads from the road who think that alcohol has no effect whatsoever on their driving ability is a good thing in my opinion.
 






BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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I have always believed that the limit should be zero at least everybody knows exactly where they stand. Because I am a big fat b.....d I would probably pass a breatherlyser when my wife wouldnt but I cannot and nor can anybody say with any authority how much I can drink to stay within the limit. A zero level sorts that out. As regards age I read a report that said that the worst offenders are the 50+ with the attitude of ' have done it all my life so why should I change now'.
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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I totally disagree with lowering the current limit.

Firstly, the sort of driver currently who goes over the limit and gets involved in an accident is not going to change his/her behaviour at all.

Secondly, any "zero tolerance" measure will kill off half of the decent pubs in the countryside and many urban pubs will suffer.

Thirdly, what about common sense? I enjoy a pint, maybe followed by a shandy, with friends or family and have combined this with driving for 20 years without incident. Why should I lose my freedom in this way?

It's all very well for the Islington New Labour set with their cabs rides home to Barnsbury Square to come up with this policy to "save lives" but at the end of the day its just another attack on personal freedom.

Why not just ban alcohol altogether?
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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I totally disagree with lowering the current limit.

Firstly, the sort of driver currently who goes over the limit and gets involved in an accident is not going to change his/her behaviour at all.

Secondly, any "zero tolerance" measure will kill off half of the decent pubs in the countryside and many urban pubs will suffer.

Thirdly, what about common sense? I enjoy a pint, maybe followed by a shandy, with friends or family and have combined this with driving for 20 years without incident. Why should I lose my freedom in this way?

It's all very well for the Islington New Labour set with their cabs rides home to Barnsbury Square to come up with this policy to "save lives" but at the end of the day its just another attack on personal freedom.

Why not just ban alcohol altogether?

I don't drive to be honest (I can, but I don't), but I'll edit the post above and say we've actually got the joint highest allowed limit in the world.

Not sure you can blame New Labour, I remember this same argument coming up under the Tories.
 




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