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hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
I went to Waitrose at lunchtime. Asda is nearer but its very common.

I picked up a load of stuff for lunch, and for later, but when I got to the till, it came to £17 and I only had £10 on me.


So I used my card.
I'm not sure if this helps at all?
 




mr sheen

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Jan 17, 2008
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do as you wish my non-home owning friend :thumbsup: Maybe I can sort you out cheap rent in one of my flats?

or you could just tell me why it is your RIGHT to own a house? Not why you'd rather do it than rent, but why you think you have a right to do so, even if your salary isn't enough to do so comfortably?
 


mr sheen

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Jan 17, 2008
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I went to Waitrose at lunchtime. Asda is nearer but its very common.

I picked up a load of stuff for lunch, and for later, but when I got to the till, it came to £17 and I only had £10 on me.


So I used my card.
I'm not sure if this helps at all?

Thats a good sized lunch. You could throw some of the leftovers to skint gull if you're passing the railway bridge later. Third box down, the one with the slightly soggy stain on the edge.
 


Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Thats a good sized lunch. You could throw some of the leftovers to skint gull if you're passing the railway bridge later. Third box down, the one with the slightly soggy stain on the edge.

You are mistaken. That is my residence. I own the 2nd box too. I have knocked through and made quite the pad!
 


Skint Gull

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Jul 27, 2003
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or you could just tell me why it is your RIGHT to own a house? Not why you'd rather do it than rent, but why you think you have a right to do so, even if your salary isn't enough to do so comfortably?


I have no right to own a house, I was argueing the fact that you don't consider the housing market different now to what it was previously!

Why should a young WORKING family who earn the national average not be able to own their home and (unts like you own several? If you live in country where essentially the state owns ALL the properties then its not so much of a problem, in a country like this it is.

I love your arguement that says: well just go out and earn more. Do you genuinely believe that those earning the national average in years gone by couldn't afford a house.

In 1993 my parents bought their house for 75k.
It is now worth over 300k.
How much has the salary for whatever job you do done up in the past 15 years?
400%?
Doubt it!


:tosser:
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
62,771
Chandlers Ford
Thats a good sized lunch. You could throw some of the leftovers to skint gull if you're passing the railway bridge later. Third box down, the one with the slightly soggy stain on the edge.


Ah, you see, it was only a pastry and a diet coke for lunch. It was the sun dried tomatoes, and stuff that added up.

I don't think poor folk would want any of them anyway. I could perhaps have bought some 'baked beans' or something? they could have one of those wire boxes for them by the exit, like for the cats home?
 


Soul Finger

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May 12, 2004
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By the way Soul FInger - fascinated as to what is utter utter reactionary guff about what I have written - very easy to write people off as Daily Mail readers even though I stated I would not read nad have never read that bog roll of a publication.

I suspect though like most self-appointed gurus and fonts of all wisdom that spout their pseudo-intellectual piss on here that once we dig the drains up on what you actually know we would be better off putting Bungle and Zippy in charge of the country.

Dont insult me with comments about what is reactionary guff. Pompous twat.

Ha hahaa. Thank you for emphasising my point.

I tend to talk to my friends if I have a burning issue, not a load of strangers on-line.

You're right, I know nothing.

Take a lead from the eloquent Arundel Seagull and emigrate if you don't like it.

This is a tremendous country and is still a long way from being the pits of civilisation that you have made it out to be.

You flouncing fool.
 






nlf

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Mar 24, 2008
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I have no right to own a house, I was argueing the fact that you don't consider the housing market different now to what it was previously!

Why should a young WORKING family who earn the national average not be able to own their home and (unts like you own several? If you live in country where essentially the state owns ALL the properties then its not so much of a problem, in a country like this it is.

I love your arguement that says: well just go out and earn more. Do you genuinely believe that those earning the national average in years gone by couldn't afford a house.

In 1993 my parents bought their house for 75k.
It is now worth over 300k.
How much has the salary for whatever job you do done up in the past 15 years?
400%?
Doubt it!


:tosser:

Well said couldnt agree more, and the worst part about it is the people who dont have a big lump sum to get their first step on the ladder are normally paying more in rent than they would be on a mortgage.
 


I actually agree with a lot of what you say, especially about the police unfortunately, what ever happened to police walking the streets keeping a general eye on things and trying to stop trouble before it goes too far, where are they when someone is being beaten to a pulp - usually six cars full of them waiting to catch the dreaded 32mph drivers, dont care what anybody says driving at 32mph is nowhere near as dangerous as some hooded chav scum beating people up because they are wearing the wrong clothes or something equally stupid.

Congrats on the baby by the way

This was quite an interesting read about how the police have changed, mostly in the 80's and 90's, when both Tory and Labour were in charge!

BBC NEWS | Magazine | From truncheons to body cameras
 


steward 433

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Uncle C

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Read point 3 :shrug::thud:

My point as well :thumbsup:. You can make an even better long term investment if you wait a year or two for this to bottom out.

I wouldn't make this argument if you intend to live in it, but buying to rent at present is a dead loss.

In addition the buyer needs to be aware that many landlords are unloading the dross from their portfolios, so there is an even greater chance of buying a turkey, either that has structural problems or has been found to be in a poor letting area.
 


Exactly the whole police force has been ruined. Now the police force concentrate mainly on an easy target to avoid the paperwork I.E. speeders or drunks issue the fines then head off for more doughnuts and tea

Also if you look at the dates, in the 80's and 90's the Tories were in power for about sixteen and a half years and Labour for about there and a half years. Yet some people blame Labour for a lot of the problems with the police, when most of the changes to the police that happened in the 80's and 90's the Tories were in charge!
 




steward 433

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Also if you look at the dates, in the 80's and 90's the Tories were in power for about sixteen and a half years and Labour for about there and a half years. Yet some people blame Labour for a lot of the problems with the police, when most of the changes to the police that happened in the 80's and 90's the Tories were in charge!

I won't blame a single party as all politicians are just as bad as the rest. All parties have their good and bad points.

What we need to happen is for the paperwork to be streamlined again and the police to concentrate on the human impact crimes first, NOT the cash cows of speeding and drinking
 




Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
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Worthing
Bars is Susan, 43 from Lewes. She is unemployed and has a grudge against me because I met her on a corporate film set once and supposedly ignored her. She was a trainee make up artist but word of her stalking tendancies got round the film community and she cannot get any work.She also turned up at the Directors office several times when she became besotted with him. She is a nutjob and that is why she is obsessed and also why she no longer works but spends all day on here pestering me.

Thats bollocks nibble...........Bars (Susan) is my babysitter. She is very good and will come round and sit with my kids at very short notice. She does not seem to have any real friends but seems pleasant enough though the first time I met her she was wearing crimpolene in the middle of summer.
 
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Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
25,518
Worthing
How can you 'invest in renting'? That makes NO SENSE whatsoever. In no way at all can the rent you pay be seen as an 'investment' of any kind. It is dead money. Lost. Gone forever, with no possible form of return.

I'm confused.



But you bought your council house after so many years didn`t you ?

So it wasn`t dead money.
 




Chesney Christ

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Sep 3, 2003
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What a load of utter, utter Daily Mail-driven, reactionary, totally unrealistic, self-centred guff.

It was so much better under the Tories wasn't it?

As Wozza says, have wank, and make it as frantic and sweaty as possible.

More to the point, what connection do the current Government have with left-wing politics anyway? They have swung further to the right than the Tories. We have a bunch of Thatcherites running - and f***ing up - this country. Its the most right wing Government we've had in decades. Clearly though, the irony of that is lost on some people...
 


Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
25,518
Worthing
More to the point, what connection do the current Government have with left-wing politics anyway? They have swung further to the right than the Tories. We have a bunch of Thatcherites running - and f***ing up - this country. Its the most right wing Government we've had in decades. Clearly though, the irony of that is lost on some people...



The greatest government in living memory........................ :bowdown:

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

2. Low mortgage rates.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

41. New Deal - helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.


Investing in services so people - some who may need a little help - have a better life, paid for by people that can afford to contribute............

THATS SOCIALISM. Dont compare that to real right wing Conservatism that ruled roughshod over people during the eighties and early nineties. Anyway you are to young to remember any of that.
 
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