York Mosque shows the way for all of us

[tezz79]

Like I said, im sure there is cctv in the area, and from my experience watching these people, its a common theme...something always sensational happens just before their demos.....the motives behind the murder...was a radical Islamist...somebody the Security services seemed to have missed...However, when you have the government, and community leaders all calling for calm, the scrawling of Islam on a war memorial seems a bit too convenient for my liking. We will have to wait and see if anybody is arrested.

Fair enough mate.
Also seems that security services were well aware

 

[sant andreu]

the statement from the people who released that list:

Tuesday's statement, which was addressed to the EDL in the name of Anonymous UK, said: "We have been patiently observing your organisation as you have [indoctrinated] our young with your criminal mindset.
"Your constant belligerence, like a pack of raving ignoramuses, furthers only bigotry and segregation. You have angered us considerably and summoned our wrath irrevocably."
It added: "Last week, an innocent drummer, Lee Rigby, lost his life at the hands of two vile and demented human beings in the most horrific and heinous manner ever witnessed on the streets of Britain.
"This villainous public display has thrown the United Kingdom into mourning; every community and every congregation extending their deepest condolences.
"You, however, have used this as another excuse to further spread your campaign of hate, bigotry, and misinformation. Under the guise of national pride you have instigated crimes against the innocent and incited the subjugation of Muslims.
"We will not allow your injustices, your lies, and your stupidity, to further radicalise our youth into fearing and despising their fellow man. We will begin the systematic and comprehensive decimation [sic] of your cult. You will fall, we can say this with complete confidence. We are everywhere, you cannot hide, you cannot win."


Read the full article at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/28/anonymous-edl-supporters-information#ixzz2Ufi7SULk

 

[Nibble]

I think people, for the meantime, should ignore them totally. No anti-demo's, no police at their marches (except for a few plain clothes on the march route/protest site). You can't stop them marching within the boundaries of the law anyway. Don't close roads off for their march, let them get lost in the humdrum of a busy street. Of course, this is never likely to happen but that would be my stance on their antics.

 

[Soulman]

the statement from the people who released that list:

Tuesday's statement, which was addressed to the EDL in the name of Anonymous UK, said: "We have been patiently observing your organisation as you have [indoctrinated] our young with your criminal mindset.
"Your constant belligerence, like a pack of raving ignoramuses, furthers only bigotry and segregation. You have angered us considerably and summoned our wrath irrevocably."
It added: "Last week, an innocent drummer, Lee Rigby, lost his life at the hands of two vile and demented human beings in the most horrific and heinous manner ever witnessed on the streets of Britain.
"This villainous public display has thrown the United Kingdom into mourning; every community and every congregation extending their deepest condolences.
"You, however, have used this as another excuse to further spread your campaign of hate, bigotry, and misinformation. Under the guise of national pride you have instigated crimes against the innocent and incited the subjugation of Muslims.
"We will not allow your injustices, your lies, and your stupidity, to further radicalise our youth into fearing and despising their fellow man. We will begin the systematic and comprehensive decimation [sic] of your cult. You will fall, we can say this with complete confidence. We are everywhere, you cannot hide, you cannot win."


Read the full article at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/28/anonymous-edl-supporters-information#ixzz2Ufi7SULk

Good post.
If the statement was also addressed to the radical muslims, then this would also be good.

 

[Soulman]

I think people, for the meantime, should ignore them totally. No anti-demo's, no police at their marches (except for a few plain clothes on the march route/protest site). You can't stop them marching within the boundaries of the law anyway. Don't close roads off for their march, let them get lost in the humdrum of a busy street. Of course, this is never likely to happen but that would be my stance on their antics.

Correct.
See my post above.

 

[somerset]

Like I said, im sure there is cctv in the area, and from my experience watching these people, its a common theme...something always sensational happens just before their demos.....the motives behind the murder...was a radical Islamist...somebody the Security services seemed to have missed...However, when you have the government, and community leaders all calling for calm, the scrawling of Islam on a war memorial seems a bit too convenient for my liking. We will have to wait and see if anybody is arrested.

That old conspiracy theory.......you must really struggle through life with all that paranoia bouncing around in your head..... sometimes things are less complicated to analyse...

 

[daveinprague]

That old 'maybe all is not as it seems' theory...like I said...EDL have a track record of sensational events just before their demos... If it was a muslim, I will hold my hands up...if its a non muslim, will you?

 

[brightn'ove]

Isn't it just.... remember 'fondly' trying to get back to the St Johns from the Uni via Tang Hall at 1 am....

Yet the mosque has 'survived' there for nearly 30 years.... a miracle in itself.

Try living there mate!!! A little pikey kid started on me for zipping my hoodie up the other day and I've had my bike nicked from inside my ****ing house. 4 weeks until I move out

 

[Norman Potting]

Here is the Daily Mash take on things

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...e=emailCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=

 

[Soulman]

the statement from the people who released that list:

Tuesday's statement, which was addressed to the EDL in the name of Anonymous UK, said: "We have been patiently observing your organisation as you have [indoctrinated] our young with your criminal mindset.
"Your constant belligerence, like a pack of raving ignoramuses, furthers only bigotry and segregation. You have angered us considerably and summoned our wrath irrevocably."
It added: "Last week, an innocent drummer, Lee Rigby, lost his life at the hands of two vile and demented human beings in the most horrific and heinous manner ever witnessed on the streets of Britain.
"This villainous public display has thrown the United Kingdom into mourning; every community and every congregation extending their deepest condolences.
"You, however, have used this as another excuse to further spread your campaign of hate, bigotry, and misinformation. Under the guise of national pride you have instigated crimes against the innocent and incited the subjugation of Muslims.
"We will not allow your injustices, your lies, and your stupidity, to further radicalise our youth into fearing and despising their fellow man. We will begin the systematic and comprehensive decimation [sic] of your cult. You will fall, we can say this with complete confidence. We are everywhere, you cannot hide, you cannot win."


Read the full article at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/28/anonymous-edl-supporters-information#ixzz2Ufi7SULk

Yep some hacker group has stolen the EDL membership list and published the names and addresses online. Funny how no-one ever does this to militant left-wing organisations or, heaven forbid the likes of Islam4UK.
They've got the "leader" of the hackers crowing about it on the radio at the moment. It's taken a phone-in caller pointing out the illegality of hacking someone's system let alone stealing their data for the sycophantic Derbyshire to bring herself to grasp that particular nettle - briefly, hastily and dismissively.
The BBC are loving it. Anyway, the EDL is a couple of thousand strong fringe group, largely full of hot air, that was all but dying out before last Wednesday. Now they're on a resurgence and gaining new members. The islamiacs might have shot themselves in the foot there.
A caller just commented on the lack of media coverage about the troubles of the last week or so in Stockholm. Perhaps after the trouble in Malmo, and Sweden's open door policy on letting in so many radicals, is coming back to haunt them.

 

[Don Quixote]

Muslims have been here for a long time. It is a bit of a strange coincidence that all this anti-islam bile has just started happening in the last ten years.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Muslims have been here for a long time. It is a bit of a strange coincidence that all this anti-islam bile has just started happening in the last ten years.

If you need a starting point, I think it all started happening after the attacks on the twin towers.
Nobody is right here, the governments and these extremists are all to blame.

 

[Albumen]

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[Soulman]

The only place ive seen a figure of six thousand in London on monday, is not surprisingly, on the EDL FB page. Other sources suggest nearer 1200/1500
EDL were fighting the police in Woolwich after a call for 'feet on the ground' from Tommy Tango, on the evening of the murder.
Yes, Islam was sprayed on a war memorial, not one, but two. Tell me why, in a period of high tension, with muslims keeping their heads down in the face of over 200 reported attacks since this tragic event, would any muslim want to ratchet up the tension by doing that?
I believe it was spraypainted by an idiot, or a right wing group, who are busy with their grief hijack of this poor boys death.

So the memorial was not spray painted by an idiot, or a right wing group eh Dave.
"The man, of African appearance, is captured moving in and out of the shadows to spray the monument in London in the early hours on Monday."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/40...on-Bomber-Command-war-memorial-caught-on-film.

 

[keaton]

So the memorial was not spray painted by an idiot, or a right wing group eh Dave.
"The man, of African appearance, is captured moving in and out of the shadows to spray the monument in London in the early hours on Monday."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/40...on-Bomber-Command-war-memorial-caught-on-film.

How do you know he's not an idiot or right-wing?

 

[Soulman]

Like I said, im sure there is cctv in the area, and from my experience watching these people, its a common theme...something always sensational happens just before their demos.....the motives behind the murder...was a radical Islamist...somebody the Security services seemed to have missed...However, when you have the government, and community leaders all calling for calm, the scrawling of Islam on a war memorial seems a bit too convenient for my liking. We will have to wait and see if anybody is arrested.

Er, no Dave, your "experience watching these people" that something "sensational" did not "happen before their demo".
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/40...on-Bomber-Command-war-memorial-caught-on-film
"THESE images show a man *suspected of being responsible for the disgusting graffiti *desecration of the £7.5million Bomber Command memorial."

 

[Soulman]

How do you know he's not an idiot or right-wing?

Pass me a straw.....

 

[daveinprague]

In that case, the suspicion moves to a muslim? I was waiting for the cctv cameras before I made any l judgement. Ill still reserve judgement until I see he is arrested, as im afraid the colour of a mans skin doesnt necessarily identify his religion. You seem unusually thrilled about it.

 

[Soulman]

In that case, the suspicion moves to a muslim? I was waiting for the cctv cameras before I made the full judgement. Ill still reserve judgement until I see he is arrested, as im afraid the colour of a mans skin doesnt necessarily identify his religion.

Yep. Best wait and see eh.

 

[daveinprague]

Do you prefer the vigilante system? Why do you think he is a muslim? Because he is black? Really?
Maybe it will end up leaning that way, but until I see evidence, ill wait.
Youre quite smart being able to identify a mans religion by the colour of his skin. Respect.