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Would You Support A New Petrol Protest?

Would you support a petrol protest

  • Yes, I am fed up being fleeced

    Votes: 19 44.2%
  • No, could do without the disruption

    Votes: 24 55.8%

  • Total voters
    43


GUNTER

New member
Jul 9, 2003
4,373
Brighton
I am all in favour of blockades. It seems to be the only way the government will listen to us motorists being taken for a ride. They have openly said the money for the rise they are planning is earmarked for spending on eduction and hospitals.

This is wrong to expect motorists to pay for them.

I will support it and enjoy the chaos it causes until the government act to stop fleecing us. :angry:
 
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CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,096
As long as the public transport problem in this country is sorted out i will alwats support protests until it means i have trouble getting to Glasto.
 


zefarelly

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,789
Sussex, by the sea
we pay more for our petrol than anyone else in the world . . . .its 75% tax

if we had a public transport system 2nd to none, I'd be happy, but for many of us there is no alternative but to drive, I spend over £4000 a year on travelling by car to work and back . . . .

I am so f***ed off with it I'm looking for a local job and will take a pay cut to get it !
 


chips and gravy

New member
Jan 5, 2004
2,100
worthing
Hmmm. Driving somewhere and wasting fuel to blockade fuel installations. That sounds an interesting proposition.

Why do people think that paying a bit more tax on fuel is a bad thing? We all benefit from it by having better public services. If the money didn't go on fuel it would have to be raised from elsewhere. At least most people can choose how much fuel they need to use (expect to be flamed for this comment).

The main reason for the fuel increases are the world instability caused by the Iraq war. Blame our Tone and Dubya for that one!
 


JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,108
Hassocks
Watching the news yesterday and the transport secretary Alistair Darling defended the increase in tax by saying that people have to realise petrol is expensive because the cost of producing it has gone up. No you twat, it's expensive because you keep lumping tax on it at every opportunity.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,361
Worthing
The level of indirect taxation that we have to pay for key items such as booze and petrol in the UK is criminal. I would support any legal action that made Gordon Brown aware of the anger felt by the general public about the current level of duty on Petrol, and the proposed 2p rise in September.

I know that we can't have our cake and eat it, and if we want to improve our environment (cut back on CO2 and other gases) then we need to curb the growth in fossil fuel usage, but the motorist can't be expected to bear the brunt of the burden.

Alternative sources of power for motor cars are close to being widely available, but at present it's not in the interest of the oil companies or the government to bring such technology 'on-line' - remember the every 20th £1 that the government gets is from petrol duty. They will push it as far as they can, in terms of fuel duty, road fund licence, tolls on roads, 'speed' (cash) cameras; until we tell them enough is enough.

Just my view.

Papa
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
When the petrol companies put their prices up, no one bats an eyelid, yet when the government raise tax everyone whinges.

I know who I'd rather took my money.
 


Lammy

Registered Abuser
Oct 1, 2003
7,581
Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
What I don't understand is how the oil companies seem to be above the law? Supermarkets are a cheap as they've ever been as they have been closely monitored for price fixing. Now you can't tell me the oil companies are giving us the best deal possible when Shell announce record profits!

THAT is where the government need to act.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
Lammy said:
What I don't understand is how the oil companies seem to be above the law? Supermarkets are a cheap as they've ever been as they have been closely monitored for price fixing. Now you can't tell me the oil companies are giving us the best deal possible when Shell announce record profits!

THAT is where the government need to act.
:clap: :clap:

It's the oil firms who are fleecing us, not the government. You'd have thought that with all these fat profits, they'd have invested in cleaner, safer and cheaper energy sources by now...
 




Dandyman

In London village.
Dick Knights Mum said:
Fat Truckers and winging farmers.

Here, here. The haulage industry can go f**k themselves if they think they are getting my support.
 




Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,867
No. Petrol is still far too cheap. Look at all the gas-guzzling 4x4s in Brighton that do nothing more than school runs and shopping. Instead of berating the government for not reducing fuel tax berate them for not investigating and promoting alternatives. I DON'T mean public transport (which will always be dire) but alternative forms of power.
 


kevinsmith

New member
Jan 25, 2004
1,880
Portslade
Compaired to Europe our Petrol is dearer. I would like to see Petrol down in price but as a Taxi Driver do not want another Fuel protest. Without Fuel i cannot work, without working no money:nono:
 








Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,267
Higher petrol prices means the motorist pays more VAT, so Gordon Brown is actually benefitting from the current position in that his total tax take is going up. Therefore, he doesn't need to hike up duty by 2p but he will because he's really Old Labour in disguise...
 


king Wombat

Well-known member
Nov 9, 2003
2,008
wombat world
ridiculous the amount of money thats taxed on fuel. I could just about bear it if they were pumping this tax money into improving roads/ public transport/ alternative fuels etc. but as they are not.. fck em!
 


JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,108
Hassocks
They need more than 2 bands for road tax. Just having below 1.4 (I think) and above is not enough. They should introduce a higher band for say those above 2 or 2.5 litres to hit the gas guzzlers.
 




Spiros

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
2,376
Too far from the sun
I think the level of duty on fuel is ridiculous - it's far too low. We live in a crowded corner of a reasonably populated island - anything that makes people think of alternatives to getting their cars out has got to be good.

Try these tips for saving fuel:

- shop at local shops (greengrocer, butcher, etc) instead of driving 3 miles to an out-of-town supermarket
- try actually walking or cycling for journeys of less than a couple of miles
- instead of moaning about how rubbish public transport is, try actually using it. (I use it every day, and while it isn't perfect it works)

I am looking forward to observing the petrol pump queues from my train window or from my bike, as the petrol addicts start to panic buy.
 


ripper

Active member
Jul 5, 2003
480
Rather than f***ing up the transport system by blockading on a particular day here is another idea that I received in an email the other day which would look to make the oil companies sit up and take note. Whether it would work or not is another matter.

>We are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.
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>Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action.
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>Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
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>BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in!
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>Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 77p -80p, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:
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>For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
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>But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
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>I am sending this note to a; lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... .. THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
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>Again,all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.
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>PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE
 


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